Prabhupāda: That is the defect. They are. The living entity is transmigrating from different types of bodies and coming to human consciousness and on account of developed consciousness God has given them all this Vedic information they should take advantage and should understand what is his position and then make further development. That is the aim of human life but the so-called science means.
Human life means developed consciousness for enjoying senses, that's all—which is the business of the animals. They think that from bullock cart to motorcar is scientific advancement. From lying down on the ground to lie down on a high skyscraper building in a nice bed—that is advancement. This is the defect—or if a man is drowned if one can save his shirt and coat that is benefit. The man may go to hell but he got his shirt and coat is saved and they think it is now saved. This is their knowledge, bahir-artha-māninaḥ.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Sure. So the principle is.
Prabhupāda: They are concerned with the outward body that's all, shirt and coat civilisation. But actually in the Western countries there is the system, inside they are unclean they won’t take bath there are so many perspiration's, germs. Outside clean coats and shirt, is it not?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh yes.
Prabhupāda: That's all. Inside the body unclean, or. Skin they are unclean suffering from so many skin diseases.
Jayatīrtha: In England the system is to take bath only once a week.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Sometimes they take only once a month.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Actually I knew some friend of mine.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They take bath only sometimes once a month or. They never take bath. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: In India especially, the Europeans, I know, after four days all the coats and shirts becomes full of germs, I mean to say these bugs. Due to bad perspiration. They cannot. Therefore it must be changed.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: But some time ago there was an article by a medical doctor in Los Angeles Times. Saying that the Americans take too many. Bath's too many times so they have skin disease. (laughs) I was so surprised to see that written by a medical doctor. He doesn’t know anything but he is a doctor.
Prabhupāda: That is our first concern because these fools and rascals they are made leaders therefore the society has fallen for this.
Jayatīrtha: The Christian church they don’t teach about liberation. (indistinct) it teaches salvation at the end of their life when they become saved go to heaven. But, nowadays no one even cares for the idea of salvation.
Prabhupāda: That is bogus statement. What is this? How long it will go you cannot put on bogus things for many days. They do not know what is the science—of life. All dogmas they talk, religion, no philosophy no science. Therefore it is dead religion, advanced people they do not care for all these nonsense bogus. Anything which is not Vedic that is bogus.
Because it is not based on scientific knowledge, actually vijñānam, yad vijñāna-samanvitam (SB 2.9.31) jñānaṁ means—parama-guhyaṁ me yad vijñāna-samanvitam. Therefore they say, "we believe," and belief can be changed, so change also. Even the common men abides with the change. We don’t give any orders to believe we want substantial scientific truth.