Prabhupāda: The regret is that these rascals are going as scientists and big men. Simply talk. They cannot create. It is very simple thing. Put some chemicals together, and if you know the chemicals, then why don't you put it? And incubator put, then you don't require to kill so many chicken. (break)
Ālanātha: In Sweden when you go on the street and you preach, "Everybody must suffer here," they don't believe, because everybody got an apartment. They have never seen a poor man or a starving cow or something.
Prahupada: But he is himself a poor man.
Ālanātha: In Sweden . . .
Prabhupāda: But he has no knowledge to understand it. Why he is falling down from the skyscraper and killing himself? Why? A poor man commits suicide. So if he is committing suicide, he is a poor man.
Akṣayānanda: So many. They all.
Prabhupāda: He is a poor man. He falsely thinking that he is rich man.
Ālanātha: We're printing now a book there with all the talks according to the scientists and according to the Christian philosophy what was lately in the Back to Godheads in America. Put it together in one . . .
Prabhupāda: Don't write anything nonsense. It must be very solid. Otherwise, you'll be laughing stock. What you will say, it must . . .
Ālanātha: No, just the talks you make. Just your conversations.
Akṣayānanda: Your lectures only.
Prabhupāda: Oh. That's all right. One must be confident before challenging others. Not that theoretical. Challenge is no good. In all stages he must be able to defend himself from the opposing elements. Then such challenge is all right. (break) We are confident that this soul cannot be manufactured by any material combination; therefore we can challenge. And I can defend ourself in any stage. (break) Channa, channa?
Akṣayānanda: Chānā?
Prabhupāda: Not chānā but channa. Channaka ḍāl?
Akṣayānanda: Oh, channa ḍāl, yes.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Channa ḍāl is good nowadays.
Akṣayānanda: Chickpea ḍāl for winter.
Prabhupāda: Mixed with little uraḍ ḍāl, then it will be very palatable and very beneficial.