Prabhupāda: That means you haven't got the attachment. Your procedure has been failure.
Indian man (2): Ah, but sir, what is lacking?
Prabhupāda: Lacking, there are so many things. But one who is actually chanting Rāma, the result will be that he will get attachment. That is the process. Ādau śraddhā tato sādhu-saṅgaḥ atha bhajana-kriyā, tato anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt tato niṣṭha tato ruciḥ tathā āsaktiḥ tato bhāvaḥ (CC Madhya 23.14-15). This will increase. Just like if you have gone to school—you have learned, began to learning—then your learning will increase, and one day you will come to the stage of passing M.A. examination. And if it fails, that mean you did not go to school very seriously. Otherwise the general process is you make progress and come to the standard of passing M.A. examination. Then if you have gone to school and you have not followed the rules and regulations, you have not attended the teacher, the lessons, then you failure. That I am saying, that that is not very seriously taken that, "I am going to school. I must learn it." If one is serious, then . . . that is recommended:
- utsāhāt dhairyāt niścayāt
- tat-tat-karma-pravartanāt
- sato vṛtteḥ sādhu-saṅge
- sadbhiḥ bhaktiḥ prasidhyati
- (Brs 1.1.11, NoI 3)
These are the process. First of all the first process is utsāhaḥ, enthusiasm: "I must advance in spiritual life." That is required. And if you are failing enthusiasm, then in the beginning it is failure.
Indian man (2): No, but then our attention is towards that thing.
Prabhupāda: No, there no attention. You have failed. That is the proof that you had no attention.
Indian man (2): Yes, but then God should help us to keep us . . .
Prabhupāda: God is always helping, but if you do not accept it . . . God says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66): "You give up all other engagement and take My shelter." But you are not doing that. That is your fault. So it cannot be failure unless you are negligent. You have no utsāhaḥ. This is the process. Utsāhaḥ dhairyaḥ niścayaḥ tat-tat-karma-pravartanaḥ, sato vṛtteḥ. How these boys are advancing? They have got enthusiasm, "Yes, we must make progress in Kṛṣṇa consciousness." They have given up everything. They are young men. They have got . . . every young man has to satisfy senses in so many ways. But no. They are so enthusiastic, but . . . for understanding Kṛṣṇa consciousness they have given up everything. They are Europeans, Americans. They have got so many allurement. But I have told them that, "You must give up illicit sex," they have given up; "You must give up meat-eating," they have given up, "You must give up intoxication up to drinking tea and cigarette," and they have given up, these young men. So they are utsāhaḥ. There is enthusiasm, "Yes, we must do it." That is wanted, not theoretically on the armchair of devotional service. That will not be successful. Armchair theory will not help you. You must be practical and there must be enthusiasm. Then it will be successful. You are sitting in the same position and you are thinking that you are making progress. That will fail. You have to come out with enthusiasm. Then it will be successful. That is required. Ciraṁ vicinvan.