Hari-śauri: The more vulgar you are, the more glorified you become. Especially like all these film stars and public figures, the more of a drunkard they are, then the more they're publicized in the news.
Prabhupāda: Just like John Lennon. He is a public man.
Prabhupāda: Just see. What he is? He's standing naked and taking photograph. His wife and he, standing naked. I have seen. And that picture is there in his sitting room, fireplace. There is the picture. (laughs) I went to see him. I was his guest. So one day I was . . . I saw there that big picture on the fireplace. And here is a public . . . Newspapermen go to him to take his opinion: "What is your opinion?" Just see. What is his value? Nobody. He is public leader because he has got some money. Money is the criterion. Therefore people are accumulating money some way or other. He knows that "If I got money, then I'll have all influence over the society."
Hari-śauri: A rich man, no matter what his morals or character . . .
Prabhupāda: No, nobody cares.
Hari-śauri: . . .he becomes very attractive.
Prabhupāda: Anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he has no good quality. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ (BG 7.15). These are the . . . From the Vedic angle of vision, the Western people are the most uncivilized. Only money is covering them. When they introduced that mini-skirt for the girl, how much abominable it was considered in India. But they very publicly introduced.
Hari-śauri: Now even in India, slowly . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. They'll imitate.
Devotee (1): When the prime minister of Canada, when he was . . . when he first began running, he was a young bachelor, very good looking, long hair. And he sent around girls in mini-skirts, kissing men on the cheeks, giving them a little candy for his campaign, and he . . . he almost got all the votes, became the prime minister.
Dayānanda: We were talking yesterday how nice this story of Prahlāda Mahārāja is, because no matter how great a demon becomes, still, he cannot vanquish the devotees, even if the devotee is a very insignificant little boy, only five years old. These demons seem so . . .
Dayānanda: . . .horrible. The society is so degraded. (break)
Hari-śauri: Six twenrty.
Prabhupāda: Eh? The idea of reincarnation. That is horrible for them.
Hari-śauri: If they understood that they would have to pay later for what they're doing now, they wouldn't be able to do it.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So, what is the report?
Jayapatākā: Er . . . The printing?
Prabhupāda: Our. Fifty thousand.(?)
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We're doing that, printing fifty . . .
Jayapatākā: That will be ready after the festival? (break) . . .an elephant?
Prabhupāda: No elephant. Why elephant? Elephant is royal. We are not royal. We are beggars, sannyāsī, beggars.
Hṛdayānanda: These buses arriving in the villages will be very . . . People will never forget it.
Hari-śauri: That procession we had in the villages near Ahmedabad, in the villages there, that must have been a once in a lifetime experience for most of them.Prabhupāda: We can go there . . . And now, wherever we shall go, they will be received like that.