Prabhupāda: You can see practically. People are living in, what is called, that zone, where everything is ice?
Devotees: The North Pole.
Prabhupāda: They are thinking happy. They do not come out.
Bhāgavata: Eskimos.
Prabhupāda: I have got practical experience. In my childhood I used to go with my father for some purchasing some bhauma flour in the interior districts. So there was one servant engaged. One day he did not come. So my father asked me, "He is living in there, in that cottage. You can go and ask him." So I went to his cottage. Practically there was no roof, and rain was dropping. So I saw him in a very bad condition. Then I asked him, "Why don't you come to Calcutta with us?" So he replied, "No, sir, we cannot go, leaving home. (laughter) This is home." I have got practical experience. "Home sweet home." Janani janma-bhumiś ca svargād api gariyasi: Everyone is thinking that his birthplace and his mother is better than the heaven. That is the psychology. So everyone, however abominable. . . Everyone is living in abominable condition. That's a fact. But everyone is thinking that "Who is happier than me?" Everyone. This is called māyā. Unless he thinks, he cannot live.
Devotee (1): What is the throwing potency of māyā?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Devotee (1): It is described that there are two potencies of māyā.
Dr. Patel: Mam eva prapadyante māyām etan taranti te (BG 7.14).
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Devotee (1): What is an example of the throwing potency of māyā?
Prabhupāda: Throwing potency means somebody comes to take Kṛṣṇa consciousness and māyā will dictate, "Why you have come here? Go and enjoy life outside." And he goes away. That is throwing.
Dr. Patel: Crying?
Prabhupāda: Throwing, that gets him out. This is throwing. And this is called. . . What is called? The Sanskrit? Prakṣepatmika.
Dr. Patel: Prakṣeka?
Prabhupāda: Prakṣepatmika.