Our this Kṛṣṇa conscious movement is based on this process, that we accept everyone as lowborn. Even if he is . . . my Guru Mahārāja, even if he is born of a brahmin family, he would not recognize that he is a brāhmaṇa. He would treat him as others. And even if he had his sacred thread from his family, Guru Mahārāja will say, "Throw it away. Take new thread." Yes.
The Bon Mahārāja, he was coming from a brahmin family; he had to throw away his old sacred thread, and he was further initiated. He did not recognize anyone as brahmin or high class. No. Everyone is śūdra. "Come on. New beginning. New life again." And that is the whole basic principle of our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement.
We take everyone as coming from śvapacaṁ, but he should be given the chance to become Haridāsa Ṭhākura. That is our whole process.