Jayapatākā: Now the latest demon is the one who says the population theory—overpopulation.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Jayapatākā: He is causing the trouble now.
Prabhupāda: Because everyone is ghostly-haunted and speaking all nonsense. Piśācī pāile yena mati-cchana haya, māyār grasta jīvera sei dāsa upajaya. One who is under the control of māyā, he speaks like ghostly-haunted man—all nonsense.
Jayapatākā: They're actually ghostly-haunted, or as if ghostly-haunted?
Prabhupāda: Ghostly-haunted. Māyā is acting as ghost.
Jayapatākā: Māyā.
Prabhupāda: They attack mostly their guardians—father, mother. These ghostly-haunted men becomes very inimical to the guardians and wants to kill them. Many cases. And abuses the father, mother, like anything. "Ah! You rascal! Why you have come? I shall kill you!" Like that. I have seen it. Mad, you call, or ghostly-haunted. Very dangerous.
Jayapatākā: What is the cure?
Prabhupāda: No cure. He must die. No cure. These hospitals are there, mental. They keep in the mental hospital. But ultimately there is no cure.
Jayapatākā: I read one . . . in a purport you said that hari-nāma can even cure insane people.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Hari-nāma can cure anything.