Bali-mardana: The Christians are so foolish, even though they have big learned positions, they do not understand that the animal also has a soul.
Prabhupāda: You told? In that meeting?
Bali-mardana: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: What did they say?
Bali-mardana: They could not deny. They could not say anything.
Prabhupāda: Yes, what is the difference that you say the animals . . .? How do you say? What is the symptoms of possessing soul? The symptoms of possessing soul is described in the Bhagavad-gītā: yena sarvam idaṁ tatam (BG 2.17). The consciousness. The animals have no consciousness? How foolish they are.
Bali-mardana: Just to rationalize their sins.
Prabhupāda: Yes. No. Rational or not rational . . .
Bali-mardana: No, to rationalize their meat-eating, they say . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, to support, yes, their sinful activities.
Bali-mardana: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: How you can say there is no soul in the animals? What is the reason? What is their reason?
Satsvarūpa: One interviewer person said to you, "They do not understand metaphysics, and the human being understands metaphysics."
Prabhupāda: Metaphysics, a child also does not understand. So therefore he has no soul. Cut him. They are doing that. They are doing that, so rascal. So do everyone understand metaphysics?
Karandhara: No.