Prabhupāda: Adoration. These are the material demands.
Hari-śauri: Because, originally, it was built up as a big thing between Russia and America, who would get to the moon first.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now they are shaking hands, and none of them has gone. "I thank you."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's like the emperor's new clothes.
Prabhupāda: "You failed, my dear sir. I failed also. Come on."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's a story, "The Emperor's Clothes," "The Emperor's New Clothes." There were these tailors, and they made believe that they were making clothes for the emperor, but actually they were doing nothing, but they were making the motions. So they, everybody was saying what nice clothes and finally...
Candanācārya: No, they said, any intelligent, only intelligent people will see the clothes.
Hṛdayānanda: And someone who's a fool, he cannot see it.
Rāmeśvara: Magic cloth.
Candanācārya: So they were getting much money for making nothing.
Hṛdayānanda: The emperor went out naked in the street, and everyone was afraid to admit that there was no clothes.
Rāmeśvara: Because they would be labeled fool. So finally one boy said, "But the emperor has no clothes."
Prabhupāda: Yes, there is a nice story in this connection. There was one Gopal Ban. So he was very cunning fellow. In the Muhammadan period in Bengal. So the Mohammedan Nawab asked him, "Gopal Ban, can you prepare a Mahābhārata in my name?" "Oh, yes!" So, "I'll engage so many paṇḍitas, and they will make a Mahābhārata, your activities, your glories, everything. So give me one hundred thousand rupees, just begin." He was taking money, taking money, "Yes, it is going on, going on." "Then when it will be published?" "Yes, just last few days more. Now, sir, everything is prepared. So the one thing is, you have to give me information how many husbands you have got, your wife, huh? How many husbands your wife has got?" That is very insulting. "What, you nonsense, you take." "No, that is the main feature of Mahābhārata. Draupadī had five husbands, so how many husbands your wife has got? Tell me that." Then, "No, no, I don't want that. I am the only husband." "Then how can you write Mahābhārata?" (laughter) "I don't want." "All right. If you want Mahābhārata you must tell how many your wife has got husbands." That he cannot say. So Mahābhārata finished.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And he kept the money.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That already, he took that "I have to steal to pay so much money. Give me." That's all right. So these are, scientists are doing like that. At the end, how many husbands your wife has got.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Scientists are doing the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Taking money.
Rādhāvallabha: They have one argument, that during solar eclipse, the moon appears to pass in front of the sun, between the sun and the earth.
Hṛdayānanda: Prabhupāda explains that. It is the Rāhu planet.
Rādhāvallabha: But they are viewing the moon. The moon is right there, they can see it. And all of a sudden it goes in front of the sun.
Prabhupāda: Huh? What is that? Moon is there, sun is there. Now which first? That is the question.
Rādhāvallabha: They will say that they've observed in their telescopes...,
Prabhupāda: They'll say..., whatever they'll say it is all right. First of all, say why Sunday first. Then talk all nonsense. First of all, answer this. You cannot say "We believe that Sunday first." What is the fact? Why do you bring moon, Monday? Why not bring...?
Rādhāvallabha: They will say it is arbitrary order.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Rādhāvallabha: Then they will get back to their argument.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Arbitrary order is not science. That you cannot.