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<div class="heading">That he was speaking, vāṇī and vapuḥ. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, vāṇī. If you actually follow the words of guru, that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?
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Prabhupāda: You have to associate with both. ''Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 19.151|CC Madhya 19.151]]). Both ''guru's''  ''kṛpā'' and Kṛṣṇa's ''kṛpā'', they must be joined. Then you will get. (break)
 
Jayādvaita: We're very eager to get that ''guru''-''kṛpā''.
 
Prabhupāda: Who?
 
Jayādvaita: We are. All of us.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. ''Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ''. If you get ''guru's'' ''kṛpā'', then automatically you get Kṛṣṇa.
 
Nārāyaṇa: ''Guru-kṛpā'' only comes by pleasing the spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
 
Prabhupāda: Otherwise how?
 
Nārāyaṇa: Excuse me?
 
Prabhupāda: Otherwise how it can come?
 
Nārāyaṇa: So those disciples who don't have opportunity to see you or speak with you . . .
 
Prabhupāda: That he was speaking, ''vāṇī'' and ''vapuḥ''. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, ''vāṇī''.
 
Nārāyaṇa: But how do they know they're pleasing you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
 
Prabhupāda: If you actually follow the words of ''guru'', that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?
 
Sudāmā: Not only that, but your mercy is spread everywhere, and if we take advantage, you told us once, then we will feel the result.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes.
 
Jayādvaita: And if we have faith in what the ''guru'' says, then automatically we'll do that.
 
Prabhupāda: Yes. My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of ''guru''. This is ''vāṇī''. Even the ''guru'' is not physically present, if you follow the ''vāṇī'', then you are getting help.
 
Sudāmā: So there's no question of ever separation as long as the disciple follows the instruction of ''guru''.
 
Prabhupāda: No. ''Cakhu-dān dilo jei'' . . . What is that, next one?
 
Sudāmā: ''Cakhu-dān dilo jei, janme janme prabhu sei.''
 
Prabhupāda: ''Janme janme prabhu sei''. So where there is separation? Who has opened your eyes, he is birth after birth your ''prabhu''.
 
Kṛṣṇadāsa: You never feel any intense separation from your spiritual master?
 
Prabhupāda: That you do not require to question.
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"That he was speaking, vāṇī and vapuḥ. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, vāṇī"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

That he was speaking, vāṇī and vapuḥ. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, vāṇī. If you actually follow the words of guru, that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?


Morning Walk -- July 21, 1975, San Francisco:

Prabhupāda: You have to associate with both. Guru-kṛṣṇa-kṛpāya pāya bhakti-latā-bīja (CC Madhya 19.151). Both guru's kṛpā and Kṛṣṇa's kṛpā, they must be joined. Then you will get. (break)

Jayādvaita: We're very eager to get that guru-kṛpā.

Prabhupāda: Who?

Jayādvaita: We are. All of us.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādaḥ. If you get guru's kṛpā, then automatically you get Kṛṣṇa.

Nārāyaṇa: Guru-kṛpā only comes by pleasing the spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Otherwise how?

Nārāyaṇa: Excuse me?

Prabhupāda: Otherwise how it can come?

Nārāyaṇa: So those disciples who don't have opportunity to see you or speak with you . . .

Prabhupāda: That he was speaking, vāṇī and vapuḥ. Even if you don't see his body, you take his word, vāṇī.

Nārāyaṇa: But how do they know they're pleasing you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: If you actually follow the words of guru, that means he is pleased. And if you do not follow, how he can be pleased?

Sudāmā: Not only that, but your mercy is spread everywhere, and if we take advantage, you told us once, then we will feel the result.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Jayādvaita: And if we have faith in what the guru says, then automatically we'll do that.

Prabhupāda: Yes. My Guru Mahārāja passed in 1936, and I started this movement in 1965, thirty years after. Then? I am getting the mercy of guru. This is vāṇī. Even the guru is not physically present, if you follow the vāṇī, then you are getting help.

Sudāmā: So there's no question of ever separation as long as the disciple follows the instruction of guru.

Prabhupāda: No. Cakhu-dān dilo jei . . . What is that, next one?

Sudāmā: Cakhu-dān dilo jei, janme janme prabhu sei.

Prabhupāda: Janme janme prabhu sei. So where there is separation? Who has opened your eyes, he is birth after birth your prabhu.

Kṛṣṇadāsa: You never feel any intense separation from your spiritual master?

Prabhupāda: That you do not require to question.