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<div class="heading">A Vaiṣṇava is praying guru: "Sir, you are devotee of Kṛṣṇa. You can give me Kṛṣṇa if you like." This is the position of śiṣya. Guru's business is how to give you Kṛṣṇa, not any material things. For material things, there are so many institutions. But if you want Kṛṣṇa, then guru's required.
<div class="heading">A Vaiṣṇava is praying guru: "Sir, you are devotee of Kṛṣṇa. You can give me Kṛṣṇa if you like." This is the position of śiṣya. Guru's business is how to give you Kṛṣṇa, not any material things. For material things, there are so many institutions. But if you want Kṛṣṇa, then guru's required.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 2.7 -- London, August 7, 1973|Lecture on BG 2.7 -- London, August 7, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So guru is Kṛṣṇa. Here is the example given by Arjuna. Pṛcchāmi tvām. Who is that tvām? Kṛṣṇa. "Why you are asking Me?" Dharma-sammūḍha-cetāḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7|BG 2.7]]). "I am bewildered in my duties, dharma." Dharma means duty. Dharmaṁ tu sākṣād bhagavat-praṇītam ([[Vanisource:SB 6.3.19|SB 6.3.19]]). Sammūḍha-cetāḥ. "So what I have to do?" Yac chreyaḥ. "What is actually my duty?" Śreyaḥ. Śreyaḥ and preyaḥ. Preyaḥ... They are two things. Preya means which I like immediately, very nice. And śreya means ultimate goal. They are two things. Just like a child wants to play all day. That is childish nature. That is śreya. And preya means he must take education so that in future his life will be settled up. That is preya, śreya. So Arjuna is asking not preya. He's asking instruction from Kṛṣṇa not for the purpose of confirming his śreya. Śreya means immediately he was thinking that: "I shall be happy by not fighting, not by killing my kinsmen." That, he was, like a child, he was thinking. Śreya. But when he came to his consciousness... Not actually consciousness, because he's intelligent. He's asking for preya, uh, śreya. Yac chreyaḥ syāt. "What is the, actually, my ultimate goal of life?" Yac chreyaḥ syāt. Yac chreyaḥ syāt niścitaṁ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7|BG 2.7]]). Niścitam means fixed-up, without any mistake. Niścitam. In Bhāgavata, there is, called niścitaṁ. Niścitam means you haven't got to make research. It is already settled up. "This is the decision:" Because we, with our teeny brain, we cannot find out what is the actual niścitaṁ, fixed-up sreya. That we do not know. That you have to ask from Kṛṣṇa. Or his representative. These are the things. Yac chreya syāt niścitaṁ brūhi tan me.</p>
 
<p>So... "Kindly speak to me that." "So why shall I speak to you?" Here says: śiṣyas te 'ham ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7|BG 2.7]]). "Now I am accepting You as my guru. I become Your śiṣya." Śiṣya means: "Whatever you'll say, I'll accept." That is śiṣya. The śiṣya word comes from śas-dhātu. Śas-dhātu. Śāstra. Śāstra. Śāsana. Śiṣya. These are from the same root. Śas-dhātu. Śas-dhātu means rule, ruling. So we can rule in various ways. We can be ruled, becoming a śiṣya of a proper guru. That is śas-dhātu. Or we can be ruled by śāstra, weapon. Just like king has got weapon. If you don't follow the king's instruction or government's instruction, then there is police force, military force. That is śāstra. And there is śāstra also. Śāstra means book, scripture. Just like Bhagavad-gītā. Everything is there. So we must be ruled, either by śāstra, śāstra or guru. Or becoming śiṣya. Therefore it is said: śiṣyas te 'ham ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7|BG 2.7]]). "I become voluntarily... I surrender unto You." "Now you become śiṣya. What is the proof that you have become My śiṣya?" Śādhi māṁ tvāṁ prapannam. "Now I am fully surrender." Prapannam.</p>
 
<p>So this knowledge required, how to find out real guru and how to surrender unto Him. The guru does not mean that I keep a guru. So as order-supplier "My dear guru, I am suffering from this. Can you give me some medicine?" "Yes, yes. Take this medicine." "Yes." Not that guru. If you are suffering from some disease, you go to a physician. It is not guru's business to give you some medicine. A guru's business is to give you Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa sei tomāra, kṛṣṇa dīte pāra. A Vaiṣṇava is praying guru: "Sir, you are devotee of Kṛṣṇa. You can give me Kṛṣṇa if you like." This is the position of śiṣya. Guru's business is how to give you Kṛṣṇa, not any material things. For material things, there are so many institutions. But if you want Kṛṣṇa, then guru's required. Who is, who requires a guru?</p>
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:tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta
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:jijñāsu śreya uttamam
So . . . "Kindly speak to me that." "So why shall I speak to you?" Here says, ''śiṣyas te 'ham'' ([[vanisource:BG 2.7 (1972)|BG 2.7]]): "Now I am accepting You as my ''guru''. I become Your ''śiṣya.''" ''Śiṣya'' means "Whatever you'll say, I'll accept." That is ''śiṣya''. The ''śiṣya'' word comes from ''śas-dhātu. Śas-dhātu. Śāstra. Śastra. Śāsana. Śiṣya''. These are from the same root. ''Śas-dhātu. Śas-dhātu'' means rule, ruling. So we can rule in various way. We can be ruled, becoming a ''śiṣya'' of a proper ''guru''. That is ''śas-dhātu''. Or we can be ruled by ''śastra'', weapon. Just like king has got weapon. If you don't follow the king's instruction or government instruction, then there is police force, military force. That is ''śastra''. And there is ''śāstra'' also. ''Śāstra'' means book, scripture, just like ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Everything is there. So we must be ruled, either by ''śastra, śāstra'' or ''guru''. Or becoming ''śiṣya''. Therefore it is said, ''śiṣyas te 'ham'' ([[vanisource:BG 2.7 (1972)|BG 2.7]]): "I become voluntarily . . . I surrender unto You." "Now you become śiṣya. What is the proof that you have become My ''śiṣya''?" ''Śādhi māṁ tvāṁ prapannam'': "Now I am fully surrendered." ''Prapannam''.
:śābde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ
 
:brahmaṇy upasamāśrayam
So this knowledge required, how to find out real ''guru'' and how to surrender unto Him. The ''guru'' does not mean that I keep a ''guru'', so, as order-supplier: "My dear ''guru'', I am suffering from this. Can you give me some medicine?" "Yes, yes. Take this medicine." "Yes." Not that ''guru''. If you are suffering from some disease, you go to a physician. It is not ''guru's'' business to give you some medicine. A ''guru's'' business is to give you Kṛṣṇa. ''Kṛṣṇa sei tomāra, kṛṣṇa dīte pāra'' (''Bhajana-Lālasā'', Song 7). A Vaiṣṇava is praying, ''guru'': "Sir, you are devotee of Kṛṣṇa. You can give me Kṛṣṇa if you like." This is the position of ''śiṣya''. ''Guru's'' business is how to give you Kṛṣṇa, not any material things. For material things, there are so many institution. But if you want Kṛṣṇa, then ''guru's'' required.
:([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]])
 
<p>Who requires a guru? Guru's not a fashion. "Oh, I have got a guru. I shall make a guru." Guru means one who's serious. Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta. One has to seek out a guru. Why? Jijñāsu śreya uttamam. One who is inquisitive of the Supreme. Not guru make a fashion. Just like we keep a dog, fashion. Similarly, we keep a guru. That is not guru karma (?). "Guru will act according to my decision." Not like that. Guru means one who can give you Kṛṣṇa. That is guru. Kṛṣṇa sei tomāra. Because Kṛṣṇa is guru. That is stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā. Vedeṣu durlabhaṁ adurlabhaṁ ātma-bhaktau (Bs. 5.33). Vedeṣu durlabhaṁ. If you want to search out... Although Vedas means knowledge, and the ultimate knowledge is to understand Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyam ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15|BG 15.15]]). This is the instruction. So if you independently wants to study Vedas, just, there is, there are some rascals... They say: "We understand only Vedas." What do you understand Veda? How you'll understand Veda? So Vedas says, tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). You'll understand Vedas by taking one, purchasing one Vedas book, or taking it, you'll understand Vedas? Vedānta is not so cheap thing. Without becoming a brāhmaṇa, nobody can understand a Veda, what is Veda. Therefore, it is restricted. Without becoming brāhmaṇa, nobody is allowed to study Vedas. It's all nonsense. What you'll understand about the Vedas? Therefore Vyāsadeva, after compiling the four Vedas, dividing the four Vedas, he made Mahābhārata. Because the Vedas, subject matter of Vedas is so difficult. Strī-śūdra-dvija-bandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 1.4.25|SB 1.4.25]]). For women, for śūdras, and for the dvija bandhu. They cannot understand what is Vedas. So all these rascal dvija-bandhus and śūdras, they want to study Vedas. No, that is not possible. One has to become first of all situated in the brahminical qualification, satyaṁ śamo damas titiksva ārjavaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyaṁ brahma karma sva-bhāva... ([[Vanisource:BG 18.42|BG 18.42]]). Then touch Veda. Otherwise, what you'll understand Vedas? Nonsense. Therefore, Vedas says: tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum (MU 1.2.12). You must approach a guru to understand Veda. And what is that Veda? Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyam ([[Vanisource:BG 15.15|BG 15.15]]). The Vedas means, to study Vedas means to understand Kṛṣṇa. And surrender unto Him. This is Vedic knowledge. Where Arjuna says that: prapannam. "Now I am surrender unto You. I am now no more going to talk with You on equal level just as if I know so many things." He was right, but he was thinking on the material platform. He was thinking that praduṣyanti kula-striyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 1.40|BG 1.40]]). If everyone... This is material point. But Vedic knowledge is spiritual, uttamam. Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta jijñāsu śreya uttamam ([[Vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]]). Uttamam. This śreya. Uttamam. Yac chreya syāt niścitaṁ. Fixed-up. There is, there is no question of changing. That instruction is now, will be given by Kṛṣṇa. Sarva-dharmān parityaja mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja. And this takes place—bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19|BG 7.19]]).</p>
Who is . . . who requires a ''guru''?
<p>So therefore in order to achieve the highest, goal of life, one should fully surrender to Kṛṣṇa or His representative. Then his life is successful.</p>
 
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:''jijñāsu śreya uttamam''
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:''śābde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ''
:''brahmaṇy upasamāśrayam''
:([[vanisource:SB 11.3.21|SB 11.3.21]])
 
Who requires a ''guru''? ''Guru'' is not a fashion, "Oh, I have got a ''guru''. I shall make a ''guru''." ''Guru'' means one who is serious. ''Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta.'' One has to seek out a ''guru''. Why? ''Jijñāsu śreya uttamam''. One who is inquisitive of the Supreme. Not ''guru'' make a fashion, just like we keep a dog, fashion, similarly, we keep a ''guru''. That is not guru ''dharma''. "''Guru'' will act according to my decision." Not like that. ''Guru'' means one who can give you Kṛṣṇa. That is ''guru''. ''Kṛṣṇa sei tomāra''. Because Kṛṣṇa is ''guru''. That is stated in the ''Brahma-saṁhitā'': ''vedeṣu durlabhaṁ adurlabhaṁ ātma-bhaktau'' (Bs. 5.33). ''Vedeṣu durlabhaṁ.'' If you want to search out . . . although ''Vedas'' means knowledge, and the ultimate knowledge is to understand Kṛṣṇa. ''Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyam'' ([[vanisource:BG 15.15 (1972)|BG 15.15]]). This is the instruction.
 
So if you independently wants to study ''Vedas'', just, there is, there are some rascals . . . They say: "We understand only ''Vedas''." What do you understand ''Veda''? How you'll understand ''Veda''? So ''Vedas'' says, ''tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet'' (MU 1.2.12). You'll understand ''Vedas'' by taking one . . . purchasing one ''Vedas'' book, or taking it, you'll understand ''Vedas''? The ''Veda'' is not so cheap thing. Without becoming a ''brāhmaṇa'', nobody can understand a ''Veda,'' what is ''Veda''.
 
Therefore, it is restricted. Without becoming ''brāhmaṇa'', nobody is allowed to study ''Vedas''. It's all nonsense. What you'll understand about the ''Vedas''? Therefore Vyāsadeva, after compiling the four ''Vedas'', dividing the four ''Vedas'', he made ''Mahābhārata''. Because the ''Vedas'', subject matter of ''Vedas'', is so difficult. ''Strī-śūdra-dvija-bandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarāḥ'' ([[vanisource:SB 1.4.25|SB 1.4.25]]): for women, for ''śūdras'', and for the ''dvija bandhu.'' They cannot understand what is ''Vedas''. So all these rascal ''dvija-bandhus'' and ''śūdras'', they want to study ''Vedas''. No. That is not possible.

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A Vaiṣṇava is praying guru: "Sir, you are devotee of Kṛṣṇa. You can give me Kṛṣṇa if you like." This is the position of śiṣya. Guru's business is how to give you Kṛṣṇa, not any material things. For material things, there are so many institutions. But if you want Kṛṣṇa, then guru's required.


Lecture on BG 2.7 -- London, August 7, 1973:

So . . . "Kindly speak to me that." "So why shall I speak to you?" Here says, śiṣyas te 'ham (BG 2.7): "Now I am accepting You as my guru. I become Your śiṣya." Śiṣya means "Whatever you'll say, I'll accept." That is śiṣya. The śiṣya word comes from śas-dhātu. Śas-dhātu. Śāstra. Śastra. Śāsana. Śiṣya. These are from the same root. Śas-dhātu. Śas-dhātu means rule, ruling. So we can rule in various way. We can be ruled, becoming a śiṣya of a proper guru. That is śas-dhātu. Or we can be ruled by śastra, weapon. Just like king has got weapon. If you don't follow the king's instruction or government instruction, then there is police force, military force. That is śastra. And there is śāstra also. Śāstra means book, scripture, just like Bhagavad-gītā. Everything is there. So we must be ruled, either by śastra, śāstra or guru. Or becoming śiṣya. Therefore it is said, śiṣyas te 'ham (BG 2.7): "I become voluntarily . . . I surrender unto You." "Now you become śiṣya. What is the proof that you have become My śiṣya?" Śādhi māṁ tvāṁ prapannam: "Now I am fully surrendered." Prapannam.

So this knowledge required, how to find out real guru and how to surrender unto Him. The guru does not mean that I keep a guru, so, as order-supplier: "My dear guru, I am suffering from this. Can you give me some medicine?" "Yes, yes. Take this medicine." "Yes." Not that guru. If you are suffering from some disease, you go to a physician. It is not guru's business to give you some medicine. A guru's business is to give you Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa sei tomāra, kṛṣṇa dīte pāra (Bhajana-Lālasā, Song 7). A Vaiṣṇava is praying, guru: "Sir, you are devotee of Kṛṣṇa. You can give me Kṛṣṇa if you like." This is the position of śiṣya. Guru's business is how to give you Kṛṣṇa, not any material things. For material things, there are so many institution. But if you want Kṛṣṇa, then guru's required.

Who is . . . who requires a guru?

tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta
jijñāsu śreya uttamam
śābde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ
brahmaṇy upasamāśrayam
(SB 11.3.21)

Who requires a guru? Guru is not a fashion, "Oh, I have got a guru. I shall make a guru." Guru means one who is serious. Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta. One has to seek out a guru. Why? Jijñāsu śreya uttamam. One who is inquisitive of the Supreme. Not guru make a fashion, just like we keep a dog, fashion, similarly, we keep a guru. That is not guru dharma. "Guru will act according to my decision." Not like that. Guru means one who can give you Kṛṣṇa. That is guru. Kṛṣṇa sei tomāra. Because Kṛṣṇa is guru. That is stated in the Brahma-saṁhitā: vedeṣu durlabhaṁ adurlabhaṁ ātma-bhaktau (Bs. 5.33). Vedeṣu durlabhaṁ. If you want to search out . . . although Vedas means knowledge, and the ultimate knowledge is to understand Kṛṣṇa. Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyam (BG 15.15). This is the instruction.

So if you independently wants to study Vedas, just, there is, there are some rascals . . . They say: "We understand only Vedas." What do you understand Veda? How you'll understand Veda? So Vedas says, tad vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). You'll understand Vedas by taking one . . . purchasing one Vedas book, or taking it, you'll understand Vedas? The Veda is not so cheap thing. Without becoming a brāhmaṇa, nobody can understand a Veda, what is Veda.

Therefore, it is restricted. Without becoming brāhmaṇa, nobody is allowed to study Vedas. It's all nonsense. What you'll understand about the Vedas? Therefore Vyāsadeva, after compiling the four Vedas, dividing the four Vedas, he made Mahābhārata. Because the Vedas, subject matter of Vedas, is so difficult. Strī-śūdra-dvija-bandhūnāṁ trayī na śruti-gocarāḥ (SB 1.4.25): for women, for śūdras, and for the dvija bandhu. They cannot understand what is Vedas. So all these rascal dvija-bandhus and śūdras, they want to study Vedas. No. That is not possible.