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<div class="heading">You know the meaning of satyam? Satyam means truth. The first quality is he is truthful. Satyaṁ śaucam ārjavam āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam. The beginning is satyam. Generally the people in pilgrimages like Vṛndāvana, they have taken this religiousness as a profession to earn money, just like other businessmen do. That is cheating.
<div class="heading">You know the meaning of satyam? Satyam means truth. The first quality is he is truthful. Satyaṁ śaucam ārjavam āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam. The beginning is satyam. Generally the people in pilgrimages like Vṛndāvana, they have taken this religiousness as a profession to earn money, just like other businessmen do. That is cheating.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- October 27, 1972, Vrndavana|Room Conversation -- October 27, 1972, Vrndavana]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Gurudāsa: Acyutānanda Mahārāja said that he has heard that Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī has said that these turtles in Vṛndāvana were previously caste gosvāmīs.</p>
 
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So...</p>
 
<p>Gurudāsa: It's a result of trying to cheat māyā then?</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
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<p>Gurudāsa: It's a result of trying to...</p>
Prabhupāda: Otherwise, Bon Mahārāja was deputed, but he wanted to cheat. He thought that, "I shall go to England and become . . . when I come back, I shall advertise myself, 'I have preached in this way and that way and that way' and exploit." Just like Vivekananda did. They are all cheaters. Vivekananda had no knowledge even to . . . what is to give. He was such a rascal. And he went to America and he picked up three women, that's all.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes, this is... They are showing that "We are gosvāmī," but doing all nonsense. This is cheating. Like this man, he is thinking that "Somehow or other I will get his money through Dāmodara, and I shall drink and everything (indistinct)." It is not cheating? Gosvāmī means one who has full control over the senses. That is gosvāmī. But he is taking the title of gosvāmī but he has no control over his senses. That is cheating. So you cannot cheat that way, Kṛṣṇa or māyā. Whatever little success I have got, I have tried always not to cheat Kṛṣṇa or māyā. That's all.</p>
 
<p>Gurudāsa: Yes.</p>
That is his achievement. One Sister Nivedita, his private secretary. That's all. This is all cheating. If you do not know . . . they go for wine and women, that's all. All these ''svāmīs'', they are going now these days. Saccidananda, that long-haired man, he is also being sued for something. Who was telling me?
<p>Prabhupāda: Otherwise Bon Mahārāja was deputed, but he wanted to cheat. He thought that "I shall go to England and become. When I come back, I shall advertise myself, 'I have preached in this way and that way and that way' and exploit." Just like Vivekananda. They are all cheaters. Vivekananda had no knowledge even to..., knowledge to give. He was such a rascal. And he went to America and he picked up three women, that's all. That is his achievement. One Sister Nigrita(?), his private secretary, that's all. This is all cheating. If you do not know... They go for wine and women, that's all. All these swamis they are going now these days. Saccidananda, that long-haired man, he is also being sued for something. Who was telling me?</p>
 
<p>Gurudāsa: That Devasa(?) boy.</p>
Gurudāsa: That Devarṣa, boy.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So this cheating process is going on. But you cannot cheat Kṛṣṇa or māyā, that is not possible. It is gosvāmī, that is (indistinct) Don't make compromise that somehow or other just chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, everything will be done. Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā ([[Vanisource:BG 7.14|BG 7.14]]). Duratyayā. It is very difficult to surmount the laws of nature. So how is that achieved? Just like laws of nature are so strict, if you eat more, immediately you get indigestion. So how you can cheat? You can experience. Nature's law is working. Therefore, to become brāhmaṇa means satyam. You know the meaning of satyam? Satyam means truth. The first quality is he is truthful. Satyaṁ śaucam ārjavam āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam. The beginning is satyam. Generally the people in pilgrimages like Vṛndāvana, they have taken this religiousness as a profession to earn money, just like other businessmen do. That is cheating. Generally they do so. In Los Angeles they are keeping the standard given by ourself. At every āratik in early morning, at least 150 men. Even though I am not present, by system, by kīrtana, dancing, offering Deity worship nicely (indistinct). So we have to maintain the standard very strictly. Otherwise it will again become Rādhā-Dāmodara temple and Bharatpur Mahārāja (indistinct). You will have to find out some customer to sell it. What is the use of starting temple if you do not do it properly? Why should you waste your energy? Better travel and preach. Don't take the risk of starting big, big temple. As soon as the energy is gone, there will be trouble. That Govindajī's temple, that man lost everything because he was cheating. If this man is also cheating, then he will also. Our Tīrtha Mahārāja is cheating, then what is his...? He got so many things but he could not do anything. Now he is after these buildings, that's all. Otherwise, what is his credit? He is not a good preacher. He was at the head of Caitanya Maṭha. How much duty was..., heavy duty he had to preach. But he has no preaching capacity. (indistinct)</p>
 
<p>Gurudāsa: Preaching gives that spiritual energy.</p>
Prabhupāda: Yes. So this cheating process is going on. But you cannot cheat Kṛṣṇa or ''māyā''. That is not possible. This is ''gosvāmī'', that is . . . I have explained this fact. To these ''sahajiyās''. Don't make compromise that, "Somehow or other I'll chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, everything will be done." ''Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā'' ([[vanisource:BG 7.14 (1972)|BG 7.14]]). ''Duratyayā'': it is very difficult to surmount the laws of nature. So how is that cheat? Just like laws of nature are so strict, if you eat more, immediately you get indigestion. So how you can cheat? You can experience. Nature's law is working.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. So one must be qualified to preach. If he is a cheater, how he can preach?</p>
 
<p>Gurudāsa: If he's preaching, the qualification will come.</p>
Therefore, to become ''brāhmin'' means ''satyam''. You know the meaning of ''satyam''? ''Satyam'' means truth. The first quality is truth. ''Satyaṁ śaucam ārjavam āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam.'' The beginning is ''satyam''.
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. If he is sincere, then his capacity will increase. Otherwise, if he wants to cheat, then it will decrease.</p>
 
<p>Gurudāsa: So what is the purpose for very large temples in India? Just for the...</p>
Generally, the people in pilgrimages like Vṛndāvana and other, they have taken this religiousness as a profession to earn money, just like other businessmen do. That is cheating. Generally they do so. (pause) In Los Angeles they are keeping the standard given by . . . (indistinct) . . . at every ''āratik'' at the morning, at least 150 men there. Even though I am not present, by system, by ''kīrtana'', dancing, offering Deity worship nicely, people are coming, of . . . (indistinct)
<p>Prabhupāda: Just to attract people to give them spiritual inspiration. That is the purpose of temple. Not that you think that "People will come and give me money and I shall eat and sleep very nicely." Then it will gradually become Rādhā-Dāmodara temple or any other temple. Bharatpur Mahārāja's house.</p>
 
So we have to maintain the standard very strictly. Otherwise it will again become Rādhā-Dāmodara temple and Bharatpur Mahārāja become. You will have to find out some customer to sell it. What is the use of starting temple if you do not do it properly? Why should you waste your energy? Better travel and preach. Don't take the risk of starting big, big temple. As soon as the energy is gone, there will be trouble.
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Conversations and Morning Walks

1972 Conversations and Morning Walks

You know the meaning of satyam? Satyam means truth. The first quality is he is truthful. Satyaṁ śaucam ārjavam āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam. The beginning is satyam. Generally the people in pilgrimages like Vṛndāvana, they have taken this religiousness as a profession to earn money, just like other businessmen do. That is cheating.


Room Conversation -- October 27, 1972, Vrndavana:

Prabhupāda: Otherwise, Bon Mahārāja was deputed, but he wanted to cheat. He thought that, "I shall go to England and become . . . when I come back, I shall advertise myself, 'I have preached in this way and that way and that way' and exploit." Just like Vivekananda did. They are all cheaters. Vivekananda had no knowledge even to . . . what is to give. He was such a rascal. And he went to America and he picked up three women, that's all.

That is his achievement. One Sister Nivedita, his private secretary. That's all. This is all cheating. If you do not know . . . they go for wine and women, that's all. All these svāmīs, they are going now these days. Saccidananda, that long-haired man, he is also being sued for something. Who was telling me?

Gurudāsa: That Devarṣa, boy.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So this cheating process is going on. But you cannot cheat Kṛṣṇa or māyā. That is not possible. This is gosvāmī, that is . . . I have explained this fact. To these sahajiyās. Don't make compromise that, "Somehow or other I'll chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, everything will be done." Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā (BG 7.14). Duratyayā: it is very difficult to surmount the laws of nature. So how is that cheat? Just like laws of nature are so strict, if you eat more, immediately you get indigestion. So how you can cheat? You can experience. Nature's law is working.

Therefore, to become brāhmin means satyam. You know the meaning of satyam? Satyam means truth. The first quality is truth. Satyaṁ śaucam ārjavam āstikyaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam. The beginning is satyam.

Generally, the people in pilgrimages like Vṛndāvana and other, they have taken this religiousness as a profession to earn money, just like other businessmen do. That is cheating. Generally they do so. (pause) In Los Angeles they are keeping the standard given by . . . (indistinct) . . . at every āratik at the morning, at least 150 men there. Even though I am not present, by system, by kīrtana, dancing, offering Deity worship nicely, people are coming, of . . . (indistinct)

So we have to maintain the standard very strictly. Otherwise it will again become Rādhā-Dāmodara temple and Bharatpur Mahārāja become. You will have to find out some customer to sell it. What is the use of starting temple if you do not do it properly? Why should you waste your energy? Better travel and preach. Don't take the risk of starting big, big temple. As soon as the energy is gone, there will be trouble.