Prabhupāda: (Hindi) This is the definition of mahātmā, not that I create mahātmā. Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ, bhajanty ananya-manasaḥ (BG 9.13). (Hindi) This is mahātmā.
- bahūnāṁ janmanām ante
- jñānavān māṁ prapadyate
- vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti
- sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ
- (BG 7.19)
That is mahātmā. Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). The Mahatma Gandhi... (Hindi) Sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ. (Hindi) If you read Bhagavad-gītā, you must read properly, act properly. Then you'll get the benefit. If you manufacture your ideas-useless waste of time. (Hindi) Whether they'll tolerate? Boliye.
Mr. Dwivedi: Hm?
Prabhupāda: Whether they'll be able to digest?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Bitter. Bitter medicine.
Prabhupāda: Bitter pill.
Mr. Dwivedi: I think there is greater room for digestion of unadulterated Gītā than for adulterated.
Prabhupāda: Hm?
Mr. Dwivedi: And automatically, I do not know why, but I think they will believe it.
Prabhupāda: No, they will not take it.
Mr. Dwivedi: They are... Already they are in a mood of...
Prabhupāda: No, that...
Mr. Dwivedi: ...without much effort on anybody's part. I do not know why, whether it...
Prabhupāda: No, that is everywhere. That is everywhere. Everywhere every Indian is Kṛṣṇa conscious. By force we are making them otherwise. That is going on.
Mr. Dwivedi: So whatever... Atomic forces or whatever forces of saints like you, but they take it... There will be that air, that something is automatically coming up.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) If you agree to cooperate with me, you'll see immediately. Because I want to deliver the real thing, therefore in my feeble health I am prepared to go. If one man can understand, that I want to see. I am traveling all over the world to see that at least one man may understand. They have spoiled the whole situation by misinterpreting, by malinterpreting, and by bringing some rascal and pose as leader. The whole world is spoiled. If you want to preach some rascal philosophy, you do. Why you take Bhagavad-gītā? That is cheating.
Mr. Dwivedi: If we can preach something genuine... This life is so small. What...? Why...? Why should we be after something which is adulterated? Why not preach genuine, if at all we preach?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mr. Dwivedi: And for what purpose? Life itself is too short. For what purpose?
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) "I preach something nonsense, and I take Bhagavad-gītā." Why? Why you take Bhagavad-gītā? You... There are so many rascal philosophers. You also preach your own philosophy. Why do you take Bhagavad-gītā? And where is nonviolence in Bhagavad-gītā?
Indian man: This, I think, they will be very active to know, I think.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Where is nonviolence in Bhagavad-gītā, in politics?
Kārttikeya: Nowhere.
Prabhupāda: No. Even that incidence I told you, the, Duryodhana said, "You have come to, for kingdom? Yes, you can take." So he said, "No, no, no. That we shall decide in the battlefield." This is kṣatriya. "Oh, Duryodhana, you are so gentleman. Let us settle up. No, no, no." "No! That will be settled in the battlefield." This is Bhagavad-gītā. (Hindi) "No, we have come to the battlefield. We must decide by fighting." This is kṣatriya. Cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). Yuddhe cāpy apalāyanam. (Hindi) This is teaching of Bhagavad-gītā. Yuddhe cāpy apalāyanam. Then where this is nonviolence come in the Bhagavad-gītā? Apalāyanam. (Hindi) "Come on. Fight. You have no weapon? Take from me." This is kṣatriya. What is the definition?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Kṣatriya?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
- śauryaṁ tejo dhṛtir dākṣyaṁ
- yuddhe cāpy apalāyanam
- dānam īśvara-bhāvaś ca
- kṣātraṁ karma svabhāva-jam
- (BG 18.43)
Prabhupāda: Hm? Śauryam...?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Śauryam-heroism; tejaḥ-power; dhṛtiḥ-determination; dākṣyam-resourcefulness; yuddhe cāpy apalāyanam—that he does not flee in the battlefield; dānam-generosity; īśvara-leadership." Those are the qualities.
Mr. Dwivedi: Somewhere Mahābhārata or somewhere, Arjuna said, pratyaiva na denam nāpy apalāyanam(?).
Prabhupāda: (aside:) Get light on that. (Hindi) There was how many applications for five hundred posts?
Kārttikeya: These fifty application... Fifty posts and five thousand applications, twenty-five thousand applications.
Prabhupāda: No, no. There were some thousands applications. In education.