Prabhupāda: It is against American constitution. So they should file immediately a case.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: And America is very sensitive to . . .
Prabhupāda: So you note down. You are simply hearing. Note down and inform them. Yes. Ah, it is being recorded, that's all right. So give them this direction. Combine the Indian community. In Toronto and in . . . there are many thousands of Indians, New York, Canada, London. These are very important places.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, we can do that.
Prabhupāda: Yes, many thousands and thousands of important Indians, very rich men there are. In London there are very rich Indians. They can form immediately a solid association. They should present that, "This Kṛṣṇa is our God. In every Indian home we observe Kṛṣṇa Janmāṣṭamī." Even though one does not follow Kṛṣṇa cult, still if he is Hindu he follows the Janmāṣṭamī. Inevitably, everywhere. So this Kṛṣṇa cult is genuine, Vedic, based on Bhagavad-gītā, which was spoken long, long years ago before any religion . . . any religious literature in the world. The Buddha literature or the Christian literature and Jewish literature, they cannot be counted more than two thousand years. A little more than that. But this Kṛṣṇa cult is coming, it is coming from, I have already explained in the Introduction, it is coming from four hundred millions of years ago. But even from historically, it is five thousand years—beyond all religious literature in the world. We have to present this case in the court. And let it be discussed thorough . . . yes, and see our books, compare any religious books with our these books. Present all the opinions of big, big professors how traditional Indian culture is there. You have to fight, organize. Give them hint, this.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: How they can defeat us? We have got so solid ground. How they can defeat, these rascals? We consider them simply rascals and fools. And we call them rascals and fools. What do they know of religion? What do they know of God? They know slaughterhouse and killing and illicit sex, and killing the fetus. That's all. What do they know? They are not even civilized. We have come to make them civilized. They should understand. They are not civilized. They do not how to eat even. The first principle of life is eating. They do not know how to eat. We are teaching them how to eat. They simply challenge, like that. When men are uncivilized, they do not how to grow food, they kill animals in the jungle and eat. When they are civilized, they know how to grow food now, and the nice food grains, fruit, flowers, now why should say, "You eat the meat"? The meat-eating is meant for the most uncivilized persons. That means they do not know even how to eat. They do not know how to eat, how to sleep, how to have sex. Nothing. They're having sex like cats and dogs. No marriage—girl's friend, boy's friend, and then illegitimate . . . so many things. They should be exposed.
And there is no harm exposing, in truth. Simply by manufacturing, constructing a big, high skyscraper building, does it mean he is civilized? It is passionate work. They can take credit of a good mistrī, just like so many mistrīs, they construct. I cannot do. Does it mean I am less than him? I could not construct this temple. I have to call some low class, a builder and company, they constructed. Does it meant he is higher in intelligence than me? They are giving credit, "Oh, now they have constructed skyscraper building. They have constructed motorcar, horseless carriage." They are taking credit on this. But this is not civilization. Cāṇakya Paṇḍita has given the formula of civilization, three words: mātṛvat para-dāreṣu. Where is that civilization, to consider every woman as mother? Except one's own married wife, all women, mother. Where is that civilization? That should be; otherwise there cannot be social regulation. Mātṛvat para-dāreṣu para dravyeṣu loṣṭravat: others' property is just like garbage in the street. Nobody touches the garbage. That is civilization.