Prabhupāda: Yes, you can see. Yes. You can go to Kṛṣṇa and see Him. That requires qualification.
Paramahaṁsa: That's not as easy.
Prabhupāda: No, it is very easy. It is simply, as we are teaching our students, just become a devotee, offer namaskār, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto (BG 18.65), always think of Him, and you will go to Him. It is not at all difficult. Bahavo jñāna-tapasā mad-bhāvam āgatāḥ (BG 4.10): "Bahavo, many, did come to Me." How? Jñāna-tapasā, "By knowledge and tapasya, being purified, they come to Me," Kṛṣṇa says. Why you are disappointed? You can go. Kṛṣṇa is open. Te 'pi yānti parāṁ gatim (BG 9.32). Striya śūdra tathā vaiśya: even the women, less intelligent, the śūdra, vaiśya, they can come and see Him. Where is the difficulty? Even if you are born very lowest, you can go. Kṛṣṇa is open to everyone. Simply you become qualified, that's all. And what is the qualification? Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru (BG 18.65): "Just always think of Me, become My devotee, offer your respect to Me, and man-manā, worship Me." That's all. Four things. That we are opening this temple for this purpose, that you always think of Him, you worship Him, you offer obeisances to Him and become His devotee. And then? Mām evaiṣyasi asaṁśayaḥ (BG 18.68), without a doubt you will come to Him. What is the difficulty? There is no difficulty.
Paramahaṁsa: If the operator of the powerhouse, he is operating and running the powerhouse, but it's not really necessary that we go see him. We can simply enjoy the facilities offered by the powerhouse.
Prabhupāda: That's all right, but if you are intelligent enough—if you are a rascal fool, you cannot see—but if you are intelligent, then you'll be eager to: "Who is operating? Let me see." That is the difference of intelligence. Dull . . . just like we read one story. One little boy, he was beating on a drum. So he became inquisitive, "Wherefrom the sound is coming? Somebody must be within it." So he took a knife and cut it. This is intelligence: "Wherefrom the sound is coming?" He was beating—dum, dum, dum—he became inquisitive. That is intelligence. A dull student—coming, that's all. And intelligent, he tries to . . . that is intelligence. Inquisitiveness. Intelligent boy will always enquire, "What is this, father? What is this, father? Wherefrom the sound is coming?" That is intelligence. So if one is very dull—just like cats and dogs, they cannot enquire, "What is this machine? What is this behind?" It is in the human form of life these enquiries should come. Otherwise he remains a cat and dog.