Madhudviṣa: The body is rotting in the tomb, and then they say that the body at the end of the creation is reconstructed and reunited with the soul.
Prabhupāda: That's all right, but not this body. Reconstruct.
Madhudviṣa: That they say this body.
Prabhupāda: That is their foolishness. This body, you can say this is material body, that is also material body. But not this body. Just like you change your cloth. The other cloth also made of cotton, and this is also made of cotton. In the same way, you can say: "The same body," cotton body or dress. But you cannot say that this cloth or this dhotī is going with you. How they can say? This body is lying here. "This body" means this material body.
Madhudviṣa: They will say: "Some things you cannot understand. You must simply accept on faith."
Prabhupāda: "You cannot understand"—that is also good. Suppose a child cannot understand. But there must be some explanation. Otherwise, how in advanced stages one can accept? They will say "dogmatic." This body means this material body, and this material body has got so many shapes, 8,400,000. So hell means . . . this is also hellish. A tree is standing for five thousand years or five hundred years. Is it not hellish? If I ask you, "Stand here for five days," you will die. (laughing) If there is such order from the government, "You stand here for so many days . . ."
Satsvarūpa: Naked. Naked, too.
Prabhupāda: Naked. This is hellish. (japa) (dog barking) Now this, another hellish life. (laughing) His only business is to bark. The master may like to keep a dog, but if he is said that, "You also become a dog," he'll not agree. Eh? Will he agree?
Madhudviṣa: But whether he agrees or not, he will become one, if he is too much attached.