Prabhupāda: This boy came to us, he contributed $38,000—whatever he had. So through somehow or other . . .
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: . . . coming. After all, money is Kṛṣṇa's.
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Lakṣmī. Lakṣmī is Nārāyaṇa's property.
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: When Nārāyaṇa is there, Lakṣmī must be there. Because Lakṣmī is not unfaithful. She cannot live alone. Rather, those who are materialistic persons, they are trying to capture Lakṣmī without Nārāyaṇa.
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes. So it is cañcalā. (laughter)
Prabhupāda: It is. Just like Rāvaṇa captured Lakṣmī.
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Defied Rāma, Nārāyaṇa, and captured Lakṣmī. He thought, "I don't care for Nārāyaṇa; I care for Lakṣmī." The result was that he became vanquished. Life, property and everything—sons, daughters, all family.
So that is going to happen. If they do not take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then the whole world will be finished like Rāvaṇa. That's a fact. The atom bomb is there already. So they must take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, otherwise they will be finished. Their so-called science will not save.
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: What science will save? There was inundation in the eastern part.
Professor Kulshrestha: Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: Similar things—the Pacific Ocean can finish all this California in a second. How the science can protect?
Professor Kulshrestha: Science has got more means for destruction, I believe.
Prabhupāda: They can use, that's all.