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| Prabhupāda: Vāsudeva-parā vedā, vāsudeva-parā... Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā ([[Vanisource:BG 7.19|BG 7.19]]). This is wanted. At least, one must know. Why they should be kept in darkness? What is this civilization? They have got light. The knowledge is there. They can be educated. And unnecessarily they are kept into darkness. Is that civilization? Others may do it. They have no knowledge. Why India? India should now stand up—"Stop this nonsense." They have got this culture. That is India's mission. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission. Bhārata-bhūmite haila manuṣya-janma ([[Vanisource:CC Adi 9.41|CC Adi 9.41]]). India cannot tolerate this. Do you follow? When... Even it is not possible to introduce this movement in a larger scale, there is no harm. Anyone who takes it, he is happy. It is very difficult. We are not expected that manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]), everyone will be able to do it. But the ideal should be there. And it is India's duty to keep this ideal, Indian people's duty, government's duty. That will keep India's prestige in the highest level. Make propaganda like that. Why India should be lowered down unnecessarily while we have got so much stock of knowledge, scientific knowledge? Am I right? | | Prabhupāda: ''Vāsudeva-parā vedā'', ''vāsudeva-parā'' . . . ''Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti sa mahātmā'' ([[vanisource:BG 7.19 (1972)|BG 7.19]]). This is wanted. At least, one must know. Why they should be kept in darkness? What is this civilization? They have got light. The knowledge is there. They can be educated. And unnecessarily they are kept into darkness. Is that civilization? Others may do it. They have no knowledge. Why India? India should now stand up—"Stop this nonsense." They have got this culture. That is India's mission. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission. ''Bhārata-bhūmite haila manuṣya-janma'' ([[vanisource:CC Adi 9.41|CC Adi 9.41]]). India cannot tolerate this. Do you follow? When . . . Even it is not possible to introduce this movement in a larger scale, there is no harm. Anyone who takes it, he is happy. It is very difficult. We are not expected that ''manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu'' ([[vanisource:BG 7.3 (1972)|BG 7.3]]), everyone will be able to do it. But the ideal should be there. And it is India's duty to keep this ideal, Indian people's duty, government's duty. That will keep India's prestige in the highest level. Make propaganda like that. Why India should be lowered down unnecessarily while we have got so much stock of knowledge, scientific knowledge? Am I right? |
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| Prabhupāda: Yes. Why? It doesn't matter only a few persons may take, but the ideal must be there. And preach all over the world. For me it will be difficult to move everywhere, but so long my life is there, I'll give you hint. You develop it. | | Prabhupāda: Yes. Why? It doesn't matter only a few persons may take, but the ideal must be there. And preach all over the world. For me it will be difficult to move everywhere, but so long my life is there, I'll give you hint. You develop it. |
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| Svarūpa Dāmodara: So far in Manipur, most people in the educated class, they all accept. They also... | | Svarūpa Dāmodara: So far in Manipur, most people in the educated class, they all accept. They also . . . |
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| Prabhupāda: Then that will be very nice. I want to have a small Vaiṣṇava state—varṇāśrama, ideal. | | Prabhupāda: Then that will be very nice. I want to have a small Vaiṣṇava state—''varṇāśrama'', ideal. |
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| Svarūpa Dāmodara: This is possible in Manipur. | | Svarūpa Dāmodara: This is possible in Manipur. |
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| Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore I thought it. Ideal Vaiṣṇava state. Brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, they are doing very nicely, and people will be surprised, "Oh." There is no question of hatred. It is division for proper discharge of duty. | | Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore I thought it. Ideal Vaiṣṇava state. ''Brāhmaṇa'', ''kṣatriya'', ''vaiśya'', ''śūdra'', they are doing very nicely, and people will be surprised, "Oh." There is no question of hatred. It is division for proper discharge of duty. |
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| Svarūpa Dāmodara: But I saw in the airport, the policemen, they have this tilaka. | | Svarūpa Dāmodara: But I saw in the airport, the policemen, they have this ''tilaka''. |
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| Prabhupāda: Tilaka. | | Prabhupāda: ''Tilaka''. |
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| Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow. | | Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow. |
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| Svarūpa Dāmodara: The policemen, they are dressed, but they have tilaka. | | Svarūpa Dāmodara: The policemen, they are dressed, but they have ''tilaka''. |
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| Prabhupāda: Manipur? Manipur?
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| Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, Manipur. And when we go, they always give respect. Though I am nobody, but...
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| Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow. The policemen wear tilaka. There is justice, for sure.
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| Prabhupāda: So immediately do it. I shall go. If there is such possibility... Let us have a small ideal state. If respectable gentlemen take it, oh, it will be a great success, an ideal state throughout the whole world, Vaiṣṇava state.
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| Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Example. You can show that example.
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| Prabhupāda: Show their policemen, all with tilaka, and marching, "Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare."
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| Prabhupāda: We shall train them. Military march, Manipur. Slogan: "Jaya Rādhe! Jaya Kṛṣṇa! Jaya Babhruvāhana! Jaya Arjuna!" And then let us go. We shall organize Bombay headquarter, Manipur Vaiṣṇava state, send missionary all over the world, bona fide, scientific system of religion, ideal character. Ideal character. Yasyāsti bhaktir bhagavaty akiñcanā sarvair guṇais tatra samāsate surāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 5.18.12|SB 5.18.12]]). That we have to show. "Here is the sum total of all good qualities." That we have to show. We haven't got to go anywhere. Knowledge, good quality, happiness, advancement of life—everything complete. So let us go to Manipur. Arrange for that.
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