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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ jīva loke sanātana ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7|BG 15.7]]). Sanātana-jīva-loke jīva āṁśa. Āṁśa cannot be the full. Yes. Āṁśa, part, cannot be equal to the whole.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977|Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ jīva loke sanātana ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7 (1972)|BG 15.7]]). Sanātana-jīva-loke jīva āṁśa. Āṁśa cannot be the full. Yes. Āṁśa, part, cannot be equal to the whole.</p>
<p>Guest (5): Then if we be the parcels of God, then what about prārabdha?  We are suffering from pain and pleasure...</p>
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<p>Prabhupāda: So you are suffering. God is not suffering.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So you are suffering. God is not suffering.</p>

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"if we be the parcels of God, then what about prarabdha"

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Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Lectures

So you are suffering. God is not suffering... therefore, difference between you and God. You are suffering god and he's enjoying God.

Lecture on CC Madhya-lila 8.128 -- Bhuvanesvara, January 24, 1977:

Prabhupāda: Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ jīva loke sanātana (BG 15.7). Sanātana-jīva-loke jīva āṁśa. Āṁśa cannot be the full. Yes. Āṁśa, part, cannot be equal to the whole.

Guest (5): Then if we be the parcels of God, then what about prārabdha? We are suffering from pain and pleasure...

Prabhupāda: So you are suffering. God is not suffering.

Guest (5): No. God is not suffering.

Prabhupāda: Then, therefore, difference between you and God. You are suffering god and he's enjoying God.

Guest (5): We are enjoying the prārabdha, is it not?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Guest (5): Pain and pleasure is part of God.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That prārabdha. That is the... But God is not...

Guest (5): This is not argument. I have no equal.(?)

Prabhupāda: God is not under the laws of karma.

Guest (5): Swami, I want to know from swami.

Hari-śauri: If you want to know, then listen! If you want to know, listen. Don't speak!

Guest (5): All are waves and bubbles of the same sea. We are the bubbles and waves of the same sea, same Paraṁbrahman, this ātmā, Himself... (quotes Sanskrit) Oṁ bhūr bhuvaḥ svaḥ... (break)

Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa says ca, this word. Ksetrajñaṁ ca means "I am also kṣetrajña." Therefore He is different from the ordinary kṣetrajña. First of all try to understand this. Ca means different, another. And the difference is that sarva-kṣetreṣu bhārata, whereas the individual kṣetrajña is within the body. That's all. (break) ...there is no advaitavāda. There may be advaitavāda philosophy, but in Bhagavad-gītā there is no adva itavāda. It is dvaitavāda. Otherwise why Kṛṣṇa said, sarva-dharmān partiyajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ: "You śaraṇaṁ vraja. You are different from Me"? Kṛṣṇa says. Otherwise why Kṛṣṇa asked that "You surrender"? That you and I, different. That is dvaitavāda.

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