Prabhupāda: . . . talked with many gentleman, lawyer. That Goldsmith, he was against war, but when I asked him, "Whether you are meat-eaters, killing animals?" "Yes, that is our food." So if the poor animals can become your food, the big nation can say: "The small nation is my food. I can kill them. We can kill them." Everyone can say. And that is happening, like "Might is right."
Revatīnandana: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Revatīnandana: Goldsmith? He's a lawyer or something in Los Angeles?
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. No, not Los Angeles. New York.
Revatīnandana: Oh, this Gould, Martin . . . some, his name was, in Los Angeles, Gould, Martin Gould. (break)
Sir Alistair Hardy: . . . Rabindranath Tagore thought of in India today. I've always admired Rabindranath Tagore's very much, his poetic writings. Do people in India think much of him today?
Prabhupāda: What about that?
Haṁsadūta: Rabindranath Tagore. If his writings are highly considered by people in India.
Prabhupāda: No, not at all.
Sir Alistair Hardy: Not at all. No.
Prabhupāda: What is his writings? So many speculation. That's all. But it has got little similarity to Vaiṣṇavism. His Gītāñjali . . .
Sir Alistair Hardy: He had a great reputation in the Western world.
Prabhupāda: But his literatures are not read by our . . . a section.
Revatīnandana: Mostly in Bengal. And because he was accepted in the West, therefore they are very proud of it. But otherwise . . . (laughs)
Prabhupāda: The Russians read. I have heard that in your Oxford University there is study of Rabindranath's books? They study?
Sir Alistair Hardy: They study which books?
Prabhupāda: Rabindranath's.
Sir Alistair Hardy: Oh, I think they produce some of them, yes. He gave a course of lectures in Oxford about 1923, I think, or '22 or '23, which were very well attended. I wasn't there, unfortunately, but I read them.
Prabhupāda: 1953?
Haṁsadūta: '23.
Sir Alistair Hardy: '23.
Prabhupāda: '23.
Sir Alistair Hardy: '23.