Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: In other words, they are theorizing that "Death is a very peaceful state of sleeping. Why are we protesting so much?"
Prabhupāda: But that is not sleeping. After sleeping you have to awake, and you have to bark like dog, "Give me food. Gow! Gow! Gow!" You are not going to sleep after death. You are awakening like a dog, and bark and disturb others. That is your mistake, that you are sleeping forever. No sleeping. You have to wake up again. (break)
Rādhā-vallabha: . . .told me that he was . . .. He said that spirit and matter are the same. So I grabbed him and threatened to punch him in the nose. He said, "No, no, that is different." (break)
Śukadeva: So if we have to wake again, then there's no really . . . Why should we have to stop birth and death?
Prabhupāda: So you have no experience? Do you sleep perpetually, whole day and night? Why do you wake up? Is it not your experience that you sleep at night and wake up at daytime?
Śukadeva: Yes. But if I'm going to wake again, then why should I want to stop it? I go to sleep; I wake up.
Prabhupāda: No, but your waking . . . You are going to wake up like a dog. That is the . . . (indistinct) . . .. You sleep perpetually . . ., not perpetually, for seven months, and then you wake up as a dog. The body is changed. And go on barking. That you do not know. That is ignorance.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That's amazing. You go to sleep in a human body, and you wake up in a dog body.
Prabhupāda: Ah, that's it. What is this conglomeration? (laughter) (break)
Śukadeva: . . .wake up the next morning. I am not afraid to go to sleep because I know that I will wake up. So if I'm going to die and I know that . . .
Prabhupāda: Die means you sleep as a man and wake up as a dog. That is dying.
Śukadeva: But it is okay to be a dog. It is okay to be a dog.
Prabhupāda: Yes. But if you are so foolish that it is okay to be dog, then it is very nice.