Prabhupāda: They . . . anyone can. Rabindra Bābu was also like that. (laughter) He was a bābu, but he became guru. This is going on.
Guest (4): That means this about this varṇa-saṅkara etc.—Lord Kṛṣṇa mentions in Gītā—that this present-day society is varṇa-saṅkara.
Prabhupāda: Varṇa-saṅkara. There is no varṇāśrama; therefore all the children, they are varṇa-saṅkara. And as soon as there is varṇa-saṅkara population, the world becomes hell. Therefore we are trying to check, "No illicit sex"—to stop this varṇa-saṅkara. Now the varṇa-saṅkara has come to such an extent that they are killing child, and that is legal. They have come down to such a extreme position.
Guest (4): But Śrīla, there is a practical point of view also. There is nothing to eat. What will happen?
Prabhupāda: Who says nothing to eat? That is also their manufacture.
Guest (4): I mean the figures which are published that half of humanity will starve.
Prabhupāda: It's . . . especially, we are Indian, it is advertised that we are poverty-stricken. All over the world this is advertised. Wherever I go, they say, "Oh, you are coming from India?" (laughter) Because they are simply begging, the government. But who is dying? There is . . . dying is going on, but that death is going on in other countries also. They are dying, committing suicide. And maybe some person are dying out of starvation. You cannot stop death. Suppose you have got enough food. That means that everything is solved? In America there is enough food. Why they are becoming hippies? There is no shortage of food. Nothing . . . everything is abundant, but why they are becoming hippies? They are lying down on the street, on the park, and I have seen in London, the St. James Park. They are sleeping, and the police is kicking, "Hey! Get up! Get up!" So why? The English nation is not poor nation. The American nation is not poor nation.
Guest (4): It's a comparative term. Poverty is also a comparative term.
Prabhupāda: No, I saw in Amsterdam—simply full of hippies, lying down on the street, lying down in the park, no food, no shelter. It is going on.
Guest (2): The hippies aren't laying in the park because they're hungry and lack food.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guest (2): The hippies are not lying in the park because they lack food.
Prabhupāda: They must be wanting something. They are in need of something.
Guest (2): But not necessarily food.
Prabhupāda: One body is in need of food; another body is in need of something else. They're needy, everyone needy. That you have to accept. I have seen in Los Angeles—I was walking in the Beverly Hills quarter—one hippie boy is coming from a very nice house. Beverly Hills, that quarter, is resided by all rich class. And he has got very nice car, but he's hippie. Why? His father is very rich man. He has got nice car. He might be very educated. Then why he is hippie? What is the answer?
Hanumān: He's frustrated.
Prabhupāda: That means in need. So that is the question, that you may be in need of food, I may be in need of some woman, he may be in need of some money . . . in this way everyone is needy. Therefore, ultimately one should search after God, when every need will be fulfilled. Just like Dhruva Mahārāja, he went . . . he was in need of an empire like his father. For that reason he went to the forest and performed all kinds of austerities. And when he saw God he said, svāmin kṛthārto 'smi varaṁ na yāce: "I have no more need. Everything is fulfilled. I don't want anything." He . . . God said: "Now whatever benediction you want, you take from Me." He said: "No, I don't want anything. Now everything is fulfilled." So that is the real need. The child is crying, and he is not stopping crying, so many others coming. But as soon as his mother come, he will stop. He understands immediately, "Now I have got the thing, my mother."
So the real need is Kṛṣṇa. That is missing. Therefore this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. All these Western students, they were in need. Now they have got Kṛṣṇa. This young man, twenty-four years old, he has got all the desires for enjoyment, but he's no more after enjoyment. He's a sannyāsī. He's chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. Why? His need is fulfilled.
(break) . . . little playing jugglery? He becomes God. So even the so-called yogīs, they're in need. The so-called jñānīs, they're in need. The so-called karmīs, they are also in need. Only the bhakta . . . that Dhruva Mahārāja, he said: "No, I am not in need." Svāmin kṛtārtho 'smi varaṁ na yāce (CC Madhya 22.42). So therefore this is the only platform to bring man to feel completely fulfilled.
It is very important movement. So I request you all to study this movement and help and join this movement. It is very scientific, authentic and real. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ (BG 18.66). If you want to be happy, you have to take Kṛṣṇa. Then you'll be happy.