Dr. Patel: For devotee, Kṛṣṇa has said: "I am yajña, and I am also hutam, and I am also performer of yajña."
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because He gives the intelligence. Mattaḥ smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca (BG 15.15). Unless He gives smṛti, he cannot chant the mantra. "Therefore actually I am performer."
Dr. Patel: Ahaṁ kratur ahaṁ yajñaḥ . . .
Prabhupāda: Therefore He says: "I am performer. If I give him instruction, he does something, so he is not doing, I am doing. I say: 'Do like this,' and he does like that, then he's not performer; I am performer." So whatever mantra they are chanting, if Kṛṣṇa does not give him intelligence, he cannot do that. Sarvasya cāhaṁ hṛdi sanniviṣṭaḥ, mattaḥ smṛtir jñānam apohanaṁ ca (BG 15.15). "Everyone, whatever we are doing, it is being supplied, the intelligence, the everything, but according to My desires." So I cannot do anything independently. Just like we are constructing, practically, with the sanction of the Municipality, the sanction of the government. Independently I cannot do. Similarly, we cannot anything without sanction of God. But that sanction is, ye yathā māṁ prapadyante (BG 4.11). I insist, "God, give me this facility, give me this facility." "All right. You do it at your risk." But God says that, "You don't do this." Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam (BG 18.66). "What I say, you do. Then you'll be happy. What I dictate, you do. But you are dictating Me. Because you are My son, what can I do? All right. Do it."
Dr. Patel: (laughs) "I grant you whatever you . . ."
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is the position. Antavat tu phalaṁ teṣāṁ tad bhavaty alpa-medhasām (BG 7.23). "Because you are rascal, less intelligent, you are doing this, but this will not endure. You'll be a failure. Better what I say, you do. Then you'll be happy." This is the whole instruction. "You cannot do without My sanction. But you are insisting. What can I do? All right. Do it."
Dr. Patel: "I grant you. And take the fruit and realize."