Prabhupāda: Again you come to the same. Body is important so long the soul is there. The car is important so long it is moving.
George Orwell: But they don't . . . they cherish the physical, you know, the world itself.
Prabhupāda: That is ignorance. That is ignorance.
George Orwell: That is ignorance.
Prabhupāda: We have got students from every community: from Jewish community, from Christian community, from Muhammadan community, from Buddhist community, from Hindu community—everywhere. Because the knowledge is for everyone. It doesn't matter whether he's Jewish, Christian or . . . "Two plus two equal to four" is good for everyone. It is not that, "Two plus two" is good for the Christians, not for the Jews. Gold is gold.
George Orwell: I didn't get that.
Bali-mardana: The principle of, say, "two plus two equals four" is the same for a person whether he's Christian, Jewish, Muhammadan or whatever, just as the same way that gold is gold. Gold always has its value in any situation.
Prabhupāda: You cannot say because gold is in the hand of a Muhammadan it is Muhammadan gold, or if it is in the hand of a Christian it is Christian gold. Gold is gold.
George Orwell: Right.
Prabhupāda: In anyone's hand. You cannot designate it.
George Orwell: Who's got the gold?
Prabhupāda: Huh? Everyone has got the gold.