Svarūpa Dāmodara: When the concept of chemical evolution, when this fails, then they have to accept that there is a Supreme Being. This will also fail.
Prabhupāda: No, this will fail. It is already failed. But because they are . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes, but they are still hoping.
Prabhupāda: . . . they are fools and rascals, they are still hoping against hope. That's it. It is already failed.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They are not fully convinced yet.
Prabhupāda: Because they are not intelligent. There is a Bengali word, dekhe sekhe theke sekhe.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Dekhe sekhe?
Prabhupāda: Dekhe sekhe. Means when one who is intelligent, he is seeing the things, he is understanding, "Oh, the consequence of such action is this." So . . . and another man is so fool, unless he is actually in that position, he will not learn. One is learning by seeing only, and another is learning by actually being in that position. So who is intelligent?
Yaśomatīnandana: One who is learning by seeing.
Prabhupāda: Yes. One who knows that these material things, it has got a beginning and it has got an end . . . in every day we see that. Even with our body we see that it has a beginning and it has an end. I have seen my father was born and he died.