Prabhupāda: Now, the Revatīnandana and this man and Śyāmasundara is making a clique. I can understand. What they are planning, that also I know. But I don't wish to disclose it. So if these things come, then how this movement will go on? Politics, diplomacy, fraud, cheating, these are the general qualification of the Western countries.
Prabhupāda: Politics, diplomacy, fraud, cheating. These things are the general qualification of the Western people. Do you admit or not?
Prabhupāda: If they are . . . these things come within our movement, then it will not be successful. Tat-paratvena nirmalam (CC Madhya 19.170). One has to become purified. Even sometimes we have to take . . . but that is for Kṛṣṇa's. There must be now checking that all these rascals may not join and spoil the movement. You should not admit.
Prabhupāda: They can come and go.
Bali-mardana: We should not make a haven for rascals.
Bali-mardana: We should not create a haven for rascals.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So how it will be done unless you GBC members become very strong and with good brain? Now, first of all save this situation. This is only solution, as I have suggested, that "The ratha must be there. We are not moving." And take lawyers. And the Deity will be moved, and we'll come to the ratha and go back. That's all. And we shall abide by all the rules. That's all. They saw it that in open sunshine thousands of people, ten thousands of people or more than that, fifteen thousand people, they stood on the Trafalgar Square for three hours. And they do not go to the church. So they must have seen there is something. Otherwise, how people taken so much interest? And there is, actually.
Bali-mardana: Yes. Just like in the San Francisco paper they admitted, "This is the most popular festival."