Prabhupāda: Secretaries, as they are staying. I think one can manage that. There is no difficulty. (break) So all the devotees here, they are all required there?
Mahāṁśa: No.
Prabhupāda: Then why . . . So the temple work is not suffering?
Mahāṁśa: It is.
Prabhupāda: Then why you are keeping so many devotees here?
Mahāṁśa: The main problem now is that there were three pūjārīs, and one of them is here, and he doesn't want to go back to pūjārī work, so we have to find . . .
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Mahāṁśa: He doesn't want to go back to do pūjārī work, so there's only two pūjārīs, and they were just complaining yesterday that it's very difficult to do so much Deity worship.
Prabhupāda: So why? Why he does not want to go?
Mahāṁśa: He wants to go traveling for a while.
Prabhupāda: So that cannot be. So traveling means you have asked him to . . .?
Haṁsadūta: No, I haven't asked him any . . . It's the same problem. Whenever I go somewhere there are always certain men, they want to go.
Prabhupāda: No. Nobody can go without sanction. This is sense gratification, "I want to." This is not good.