Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Materially no one.
Prabhupāda: Still the theory is going on, "Survival of the fittest."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They say some are more fit than others.
Prabhupāda: But who is that fit, rascal?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Who is the most fit?
Prabhupāda: Who is that? Show me.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, today we said—an elephant can also be killed easily.
Prabhupāda: Everything is killed. "Fittest." Nobody is fittest in this world. Dehāpatya-kalatrādiṣv ātma-sainyeṣv asatsv api (SB 2.1.4). Everyone is asat. He'll not exist. That is statement of the . . . Bhāgavata never said: "Here is a person or animal, fittest." That is not Bhāgavata. Teṣāṁ nidhanaṁ pramattaḥ paśyann api na paśyati. The rascal is so mad that everything will be finished, and he is talking of "fittest." All theory; no practical. Unnecessarily spent millions and millions of dollars, that "We have gone to moon." Why? Why this bogus propaganda? What is the value? And they take pride. Now we are drawing picture how many miles away. It is impossible to find out. And why they make this bogus propaganda?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It's totally impossible they went to the moon.
Prabhupāda: No, they have not gone, but still, they are making such a big propaganda. What is the mentality?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cheaters.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cheaters, sense gratifiers.
Prabhupāda: Cheating propensity is so strong. There is cheating propensity in different way. From Brahmā it goes. That is a bad qualification. That should be finished. But they are trying to increase it. I have got some bad qualification, my business is to finish it. So what is the use of increasing it? I am a thief. I have got some habit, to steal. So shall I try to stop it or increase it? Which one is human?
Śatadhanya: To stop.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because they think this life is all in all, they think better somehow or other . . .
Prabhupāda: That means they are rascals. They are going all wrong.