Prabhupāda: Vedas.
Amogha: Vedas.
Kim Cornish: Oh, Vedas, yes.
Prabhupāda: The Vedas are there for understanding by the human society. And if he lives like a cat and dog, then he's spoiling his life. We should take advantage of the Vedic knowledge and make our life successful. This is real philosophy.
Kim Cornish: I'm not very familiar with the Hindu scriptures, but I have read some Upaniṣads, and there's the idea that somehow ātman is Brahman. I don't understand this at all, so perhaps you could say something about that?
Prabhupāda: Which Upaniṣad are you reading?
Kim Cornish: I've read the Chāndogya, the . . . Brhadāraṇyaka . . .
Prabhupāda: There are one hundred and eight Upaniṣads.
Kim Cornish: I don't know the pronunciations, that's the difficulty.
Prabhupāda: Have you read Īśopaniṣad?
Kim Cornish: Pardon?
Prabhupāda: Īśopaniṣad.
Kim Cornish: I'm familiar with the name, but that's about all.
Prabhupāda: Give him Īśopaniṣad. Read from the beginning.
Amogha: Invocation. I'll show you.
Prabhupāda: Have you read this book? This is the first Upaniṣad that is read. Can you read Sanskrit?
Kim Cornish: No. I'm afraid not.