Those who are ordinary persons, without any knowledge they are acting whole day and night to satisfy the senses. That's all. This is ordinary life. Mostly people are working for that purpose, mostly. And above them, above them, if somebody is intelligent, he's working on the mind—philosophy, poetry, nice idea in novel, nice idea in drama, some psychological . . . all these things. So they are little better than those who are working day and night hard for sense gratification. They are little . . . these philosophers, the poets and the thinkers, they're little more better.
So, indriyāṇi parāṇy āhur indriyebhyaḥ paraṁ manaḥ (BG 3.42). So manasas tu parā buddhiḥ. And above them, those who are acting very intelligent, intelligently, on the laws of the nature, say, for the scientist or like that . . .manasas tu parā buddhiḥ. And that stage, that scientific stage, that scientific calculation, is the stage of this appreciation of consciousness. The perfection of scientific life . . . science, science, scientists are making research, "What is the truth beyond this, beyond this, beyond this?" When they come to the point of this pure consciousness, that is the highest grade of scientific knowledge. Highest grade of scientific knowledge is that, when we come to understand that "I am not this body; I am this consciousness."
So, so far our these senses are concerned, senses are concerned, that should be under my control. I should not be servant of my senses. And that is possible when I am situated in the spiritual platform of consciousness. Otherwise it is not possible. I cannot control my senses if I am on the material plane. It is impossible. But I can control my senses . . . but this is possible. This is possible. It is not impossible fact. This Svāmī we are known as Svāmī. What is the meaning of Svāmī? Svāmī means who is the master of the senses.
That is the Svāmī. Svāmī means master. One who has attained the perfectional stage of controlling the senses, he is called Svāmī or Gosvāmī, master of the senses. So this can be done by practice, by knowledge. This is not impossible. I was also young man. I also, I was also married, and I have got my wife still living and my family is still living, but some way or other, by practicing or by some knowledge, I have come out of the clutches.