Dr. Patel: There is research in parapsychology in certain municipality(?) of India, they have proved that there is rebirth.
Prabhupāda: That they may do, a very great service, but we know it without going to through psychological process. We believe Kṛṣṇa. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13), bās, finished. What is the use of going to the psychology and . . .?
Dr. Patel: But those . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, those who are fools, they may waste their time in that way. (laughter) But we are not so fool.
Dr. Patel: They are fools to not to think that they'll become . . .
Prabhupāda: They are rascal fools because they do not take Kṛṣṇa's word. Kṛṣṇa says, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13). Why should we bother? Our mission is simply to propagate Kṛṣṇa's instructions. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. We don't manufacture anything. So-called yoga, so-called meditation, so-called this and . . . we don't care for all this nonsense. Our only business is how to implement the instruction of Kṛṣṇa, the rascals may understand and be happy. That is our mission. We haven't got to manufacture anything. This is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission. Yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa (CC Madhya 7.128). Bās. You simply carry the message of Kṛṣṇa and try to deliver it to anyone you meet. This is our . . . we haven't got to manufacture anything. Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gītā as it is. Take it. No interpretation. Don't spoil the whole thing. Interpretation means spoiling. Whole thing spoiled.
Dr. Patel: Each man understands according to his own level of understanding.
Prabhupāda: No. Suppose, just like you are medical man, you are giving somebody medicine, you are giving the direction. If he wants to be cured, he must take your direction. Not that somebody comes, "No, no, you can take it this way, you can do this." That is nonsense. That is nonsense. This nonsense we want to stop. Kṛṣṇa is giving the instruction, paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān (BG 10.12), the Supreme Personality of Godhead. What business you have got to poke your nose and give interpretation? Are you bigger than Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa left it for you? This nonsense going on. Big, big svāmīs, big, big yogīs, big, big politicians, simply misinterpreting, he's spoiling his own life and he's spoiling others. Bās. This is going on. Very serious condition.
Dr. Patel: You are not going to go down now?
Prabhupāda: No.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Would you like to go on the terrace, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: If I like, I can . . . (conversation in Hindi with Dr. Patel) Why I have taken so much trouble?
Dr. Patel: They are already traced out. So we come here.
Prabhupāda: No, you come and preach. The country is going to hell, the human society is going to hell for misguidance. These rascal leaders, they're going to hell themselves and they're leading others. Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānās te 'pīśa-tantryām uru-dāmni baddhāḥ (SB 7.5.31). These fools and rascals are leading, they are going to hell, and they are taking the followers to the hell. This is going on. Stop this. At least in India. Save. That is real para-upakāra. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission.