Prabhupāda: . . . but to engage them in Kṛṣṇa's service. Our knowledge in spiritual life and your help, material opulence, combined together, there will be great change in the whole world. Cooperate with us. There is no loss on your part, but there is great benefit to the whole world. Try to convince them. Although they are not very big authority, but still, through them, you can approach bigger authorities. (break) . . . big churches, no use, no utility. (laughs) (break) . . . speak, andha-kukkuṭī-nyāya (CC Ādi-līlā 5.176). Andha-kukkuṭī-nyāya, you know that, the lame man and the blind man?
Jayatīrtha: Oh, yes.
Prabhupāda: So America is blind, and we are lame. So let us get on the shoulder of the American blind and give him direction, and both will be benefited. The whole world will be benefited. The America, blind, he cannot see where he is going. (chuckles) And for want of money we cannot make progress. So let the Americans take on the shoulder this lame man, and I will give direction, "Go this way. Go this way." Everything will be done. Andha-kukkuṭī-nyāya. (break) . . . nice building, churches, there is no use. Take our direction. Everything will be all right.