Devotee: What about Gaurasundara?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee: South America. Gaurasundara.
Prabhupāda: Oh, Gaurasundara. So, Girirāja, Brahmānanda and Madhudviṣa we want to maintain. Then . . . three candidates? Four, new?
Rūpānuga: Because originally Bali-mardana had a zone, but now he's with ISKCON Press, so actually he doesn't have a zone any more.
Prabhupāda: Oh. He has . . . so you are also out. (laughter)
Devotee: It's really a difficult problem.
Prabhupāda: Ah, no problem. GBC means now they should tour very extensive. That is the first principle, the GBC. Not sit down one place and pass resolution. No. They must be active. They must act like me. As I am old man, I am traveling all over the world, now to give me relief, the GBC members . . . I shall expand into twelve more, so that they can exactly work like me.
Gradually they will (be) initiators. At least first initiation. You must make advance. That is my motive. So in that way I want to divide it in twelve zones. And we have to make work, propaganda, throughout the whole world. Now if you think that the world is so big, twelve members are insufficient, then you can increase more than that and make the zones similarly divided. It is world affair, after all.
Devotee (3): Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee (3): The reason why we have thirteen here is because Bali-mardana, he is actually at the Press. He doesn't actually have a zone at this time.
Prabhupāda: Hmm.
Bali-mardana: So Madhudviṣa is taking my zone.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (3): So we keep thirteen GBC at this point? Will Bali-mardana stay at the Press and be considered GBC?
Prabhupāda: But he is not going to travel, Bali-mardana?
Devotee (3): No.
Śyāmasundara: Unless he can find a substitute to manage the Press. If he can find someone.