Prabhupāda: One must know . . . Vidhi, that practical and theoretical. So vidhi, mostly theoretical, and when you practice it, it is jñāna, vijñāna. Jñāna, vijñāna. So jñāna means theoretical knowledge, and vijñāna means practical application.
Mr. Saxena: Is religion a practical knowledge?
Prabhupāda: Religion means . . . That I was discussing. Religion means the law given by God. That is religion. They do not know it. They do not know what is God, they do not know what is the words, or order, of God. Whole world is like that. They profess some religion, but religion means the law of God. But if they do not know what is God, then how he'll understand the law of God? That means there is no religion. All cheating. Dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo (SB 1.1.2). The Bhāgavata rejects all kinds of so-called religious system, accusing that they're all cheating. Cheating, all cheating. If you do not know God, what is the meaning of their religion? It is simply cheating. If you have accepted a style of religion without any understanding of God, then it is simply you have been cheated. And that is going on.
Mr. Saxena: Everywhere.
Prabhupāda: Everywhere. (Hindi)
Mr. Saxena: I have been to all these four corners of India—Badarikāśrama, Rāmeśvaram, Jagannātha Purī and Dvārakā—and he told me what they say, Viśvavarūpa Śaṅkarācārya, he's in Purī Śaṅkarācārya, and (Hindi) . . .and about 800 rooms in that Paratmaniketan.
Prabhupāda: Eight hundred?
Mr. Saxena: Eight hundred rooms. Very big temple, and the daily income is about more than 1500 rupees per day, donation. I still get from three months. His speech is at nights, their sannyāsīs. But if you see that practical life, awful. You realize all this tīrthas, what you call? They are no more tīrthas now. All in most case use that word shopping centers, what we call. I have been to the Sivananda Ashram. Some Cidanandajī is there. Sivanandajī is no more. When I went to Yoganiketan, there is one Gangesvarananda . . .
Prabhupāda: Cidananda.
Mr. Saxena: Cidananda is there.
Prabhupāda: Yes.