Prabhupāda: Varṇāśrama college means for grown-up students. College means for grown-up students.
Hṛdayānanda: Is there a minimum age for beginning such a college?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Ten to twelve years.
Hṛdayānanda: They can start at ten to twelve?
Prabhupāda: Yes. From five to ten years, gurukula. And after ten years, they should go to the varṇāśrama college.
Viṣṇujana: New Vrindaban would be an ideal place in America for such a school.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Organize that.
Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall go.
Viṣṇujana: This Mahārāja is also going to New Vrindaban.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Viṣṇujana: He can . . .
Prabhupāda: Do that. Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja, you, and combined together, do that.
Prabhupāda: We have got so many duties to do. Don't waste time, a single moment. And don't eat more and don't sleep more. Then you'll be able to work.
Viṣṇujana: And this is the most auspicious work for now, is this remedial measure of . . .?
Viṣṇujana: This is the most auspicious work for now, is this remedial measure to stop the chaos in the world.
Viṣṇujana: That's most auspicious.
Prabhupāda: Most auspicious. Because if the people are in chaos, how they'll be able to accept the great philosophy? It requires cool brain.
Viṣṇujana: For example, in my program . . .
Prabhupāda: Budhaḥ. Budhaḥ. Eh? Yes?
Viṣṇujana: My program now is I have ten brahmacārīs in buses and everything, and we're distributing books. But if the people are in chaos, how will they be able to accept the knowledge in the books?
Prabhupāda: No, not all of them are in chaos. There are some of them. Some of them. Not that all of them. (aside) Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break) . . . in separate department.
Passer-by: Rādhe, Rādhe!
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Just see. Due to the past training, even an ordinary man, he's chanting "Rādhe, Rādhe."
Viṣṇujana: When we had our boat, the boatmen every morning were . . .
Prabhupāda: This is India.
Viṣṇujana: . . . worshiping . . .
Prabhupāda: Because, due to past culture, even the lowest class of men, he's also great philosopher than these rascals in Western countries.
Hṛdayānanda: So all the other programs should be continued, and this program should be added.
Parivrājakācārya: Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Parivrājakācārya: Would the . . .? The persons who would take part in such a program, they would have to be devotees in the first place. Is that . . .?
Prabhupāda: Devotees is . . . I have already explained. We are all devotees. Past condition, we are all devotees. We are not . . . we do not belong to this varṇāśrama. I have already told you. Suppose I am mopping. So that does not mean I am mopper. But I am teaching how to mop. This is our position.