Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They went into the European area yesterday for chanting, Saturday morning. Usually we do the Indian area in Durban. But in Johannesburg we only do the European area saṅkīrtana. We have no trouble there. They say that Durban, being very much . . . (aside; car is stuck:) You have to rock the car? Did the truck go? Yes? Why doesn't Prabhupāda go back in the truck?
Gokulendra: It's stuck in the sand. We'll have to push to make the wheels straight.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: So let Prabhupāda come back in the truck. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . have gone too much in the sand. It is dangerous. (break) . . . expanded so much, these Britishers, a few million people. This is demonic. Idam adya mayā labdham imaṁ prāpsye manoratham (BG 16.13): "I have got now so much. Now let me increase more." Never satisfied. Idam adya mayā labdham imaṁ prāpsye mano: "I want to be the richest man, the world." That was the British policy—ambition. Material ambition is like that. It increases more and more. (break) . . . British buildings or American?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: South African.
Prabhupāda: South African.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: A lot of investment comes from both America and England, industries.
Prabhupāda: So England has got money to invest still?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Yes. They do much investment here in South Africa.