Prabhupāda: Sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ (BG 5.25), that, it is very difficult. Because even Mahatma Gandhi, such a great person, he said: "Englishman, you go away." Just see. Who can be better than Mahatma Gandhi?
Dr. Patel: And he must have life like Bharata.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Dr. Patel: Jaḍa Bharata.
Prabhupāda: Is there possibility? He was so sacrificeful, but still, he was not sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ (BG 5.25). Whole struggle was "Englishman, you get out."
Dr. Patel: Sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ will be like Jaḍa Bharata.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ means who is devotee of Kṛṣṇa. He is sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ.
Dr. Patel: Because Kṛṣṇa's representative.
Prabhupāda: He is the root. Aham ādir hi devānām (BG 10.2). Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavaḥ (BG 10.8). The root, if you water the root, then sarva-bhūta hite ratāḥ, the water will go to the branches, to the twigs, to the leaves, to the flowers. He is sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ (BG 5.25). They do not know the way how to become sarva-bhūta-hite. And because . . . just see the example. I am not becoming proud, but because I have got little taste for it, therefore I am preaching all over the world. I don't say I am perfect. I have got little taste of kṛṣṇa-bhakti. So I have no distinction that, "This is Indian. This is American. This is African." Everyone, I am giving this hari-nāma. This is sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ, no distinction. We are trying to give protection to the cows, to the animals, to the trees. This is sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ. Unless one is . . . harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad . . . (SB 5.18.12) If one is not devoted to Kṛṣṇa, he cannot become sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ. Kleśo 'dhikataras teṣām (BG 12.5). Simply they will suffer, that's all.
Mr. Sar: Kleśo 'dhikataras teṣām avyaktāsakta-cetasām avyakta . . .
Prabhupāda: Avyakta. This avyakta . . . they do not find where is the point where sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ. Just like one who knows the electric button, he push. He does not know that. Mūḍha.
Dr. Patel: You have to work the main switch to electrify the . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is sarva-bhūta-hite ratāḥ. You must know how to do it.
Dr. Patel and Mr. Sar
- ye tu sarvāṇi karmāṇi
- mayi sannyasya mat-parāḥ
- ananyenaiva yogena
- māṁ dhyāyanta upāsate
- (BG 12.6)
- teṣām ahaṁ samuddhartā
- mṛtyu-saṁsāra-sāgarāt
- bhavāmi na cirāt pārtha
- mayy āveśita-cetasām
- (BG 12.7)
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Prabhupāda: . . . early in the morning have maṅgala-ārātrika, then prasāda. Now, walk, also talking. We are not wasting time. We are not wasting time. Even if you say: "Why you are walking?" then we are not walking for nothing. We are talking. Satataṁ kīrtayanto māṁ yatantaś ca dṛḍha-vratāḥ (BG 9.14). Satataṁ kīrtayantaḥ. So walking, talking.