Prabhupāda: Now one thing is that he has given service for the benefit of the Society. Very tangible service. He can be in charge of book distribution.
Jagadīśa: Mādhavānanda.
Hari-śauri: Yes, that would be good, if they were co-managers or something like that.
Jagadīśa: Govardhana president?
Prabhupāda: Yes, why not? You should recognize his service.
Hari-śauri: Otherwise he may be dis . . .
Prabhupāda: He induced persons to do some . . . that you cannot neglect. (break) Paper men coming?
Hari-śauri: Yes, Jayādvaita's going to talk to them a little first, give them prasāda, just explain the basics of the movement so that they, you know, they may be a little favorable.
Prabhupāda: . . . they'll understand
Hari-śauri: Otherwise, if they just come and go . . .
Prabhupāda: It is very difficult to understand that our movement is spiritual movement, and they do not understand what is spiritual, the whole world. That is the defect. But still we are going on. That is Kṛṣṇa's grace. Otherwise, (chuckling) nobody understands what is the aim or what is the platform. (children outside yell "Hare Kṛṣṇa") (laughter)
Hari-śauri: It's amazing when you think how we're expanding all the time. It's really amazing.
Prabhupāda: It is Kṛṣṇa's grace. Therefore they take us as one of these Gurujī and Bābājī, like this, like that. But when they read our books, higher class, they understand the seriousness of it. They admit that this is India's original, traditional knowledge. Higher, higher circle, they don't want any imitation.
Hari-śauri: No. Someone with a little intelligence, he's not befooled by . . .
Prabhupāda: No. During British period, high British officers, big, big managers, they liked Indians with original culture. They did not like any Indian with European imitation—pants, coats. They did not like these imitations. My Godbrother, that German, Sadānanda . . . you have heard his name or you have seen him?
Jagadīśa: No.
Prabhupāda: When he came to India, he was my intimate friend. So he was telling me that, "In our country, when some Indian student comes, especially while returning home after their education, they stop for some time in Germany. We used to inquire from him how much he is aware of his Indian original culture." Because they have got very good respect. All over the world they have got. Even Russia, they have got good respect for Indian culture. They have liked our books only on account of the . . . because the Sanskrit verses are there. They took it, "Oh, it is original." Scholarly people like our book on that account, that we explain original Sanskrit verse. That they have got very good regard, that there is knowledge. They're impressed. And Britishers made propaganda only that India had no culture, almost uncivilized: they push women forcibly in the fire after the death of her husband, and in the temple, the priests, they make all nonsense with women, and so on. This was their . . . just to prove that, "India was uncivilized, and we are making them civilized. By our compassion for the uncivilized persons, we are occupying."