Allen Ginsberg: Well, the chanting is easy. The chanting is easy. That's true.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Let them do that. Don't come to the ritualistic performances. Let them chant, as far as possible, and see the result. This is the easiest method of transcendental realization. But if you recommend, oh, that will be accepted by many. And if we . . .
Allen Ginsberg: No. You see, I recommend it quite a bit, but it isn't accepted by very many.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) No, no. Then I say, you are American. You are popular leader. You have got some voice. I am a foreigner. I have come new, and who cares for me? That is a different thing.
Allen Ginsberg: Well, that's why I'm asking you very specifically, 'cause I've been chanting for five years, six years. Since 1963, '64. Since the fall of 1963, I've been chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa on this continent, beginning in Vancouver in July, 1963. And I am finding there is a limitation to how many people will join that chant. Or I have found a limitation. Part of the limitation is the fact that it is strange and new to people here.
Prabhupāda: But there is no loss.
Allen Ginsberg: As it becomes familiar, it might spread more. Part of the limitation is just a natural resentment or resistance—people wanting a prayer in their own tongue, in their own language. I don't know . . . so that is, for the same reason an American Indian chant would not take hold or even a Latin chant would not take universal hold.