Prabhupāda: Vicious civilization. Simply increasing, increasing, increasing. And the government taking tax; therefore, he has to prepare roads. So in your country, the more the motorcar increasing, the more flying over, more bridges . . .
Śyāmasundara: More problems.
Prabhupāda: More problems. Just like in Madras we saw, they are also imitating.
Śyāmasundara: Little, tiny . . . (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Little ti . . . (chuckles)
Devotee (1): A little tiny flyover.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they are advancing.
Śyāmasundara: Only two lanes.
Prabhupāda: And doing it for unlimited years. When they will be finished, there is no guarantee. Here in your country they do, they have contract, "Yes, within six months." But there is no guarantee. But that show is going on that, "We are doing something." Because it's imitation. There was no need, but they want to make advanced like the Americans.
Śyāmasundara: Huge, open intersection, no traffic, they're building a flyover.
Prabhupāda: Similarly in Bombay also, they made one or two flyovers with great endeavor, and one flyover collapsed. That flyover between that Princesses Street and the Marine Drive, yes, collapsed. Because they are, all the contractors, are thieves. Instead of giving cement, they are giving clay.
Śyāmasundara: Now their plan is to tunnel through under Malabar Hill and make a freeway along the . . . the West Shore Freeway, Expressway, along Warden Road and Nepean Sea Road.
Prabhupāda: Freeway.
Śyāmasundara: Yes, and they began the tunnel when we first came there a year and a half ago, and now I don't think it's more than fifty yards into the mountain.