Prabhupāda: [break] ...Kolan(?), the paper, most important theistic paper in India. And during Harivan Prasada's time, they were selling all ninety-five thousand. Between one lakh, nine thousands.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nine thousand. Now it is ten times that. That organization now is finished.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There was no life.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Prabhupāda: But it was a good organization, that's all. On account of good organization, it was going on. But there was no life. The Marwaris, they can organize business very nicely.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: First-class, yes. Same thing with even someone like Swami Chinmoyananda's group. It is organized nicely, but there is no...
Prabhupāda: No, no more organization also.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Really?
Prabhupāda: Organization is also finished.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Jaya.
Prabhupāda: Mean.... Dead life organization, how long it will go on? Aprāṇasyeva dehasya maṇḍanaṁ loka-rañjanam... If this body is dead, how long keep it alive by simply painting? Is it possible?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Prabhupāda: It will decompose.
Rāmeśvara: So then everything, the church, everything.
Prabhupāda: Artificially.... Gundan camas kapalethabada-masa. (?) By artificial means you can keep a thing alive for six months. But what is destiny, that will go on all the time. Baḍa māsa. Baḍa māsa: "all the year."