Dr. Patel: After the scattering of these Aryans, they have come different place. How is it that we brought all the cultural heritage in north, east and western countries? They must have also taken. But because they have to live very hard life, they are in cold countries...
Prabhupāda: And what do you mean by "we"? We are not...
Dr. Patel: "We" means our forefathers.
Prabhupāda: Forefathers may be saintly person, but we are not. Why do you say "we"?
Dr. Patel: "We" means the descendants of our forefathers.
Prabhupāda: My father might have been very rich man, but I am a poverty-stricken man, loitering in the street. Why say "we"?
Dr. Patel: "We" means these Aryans in India, they brought all the Vedas and Vedic culture with them. They must have taken it in.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. One who is speaking, he is not in Vedic culture. That is the difficulty.
Dr. Patel: I talk of these historical facts, sir. Historically, Eastern European races are just our cousin. I mean the Indian races. But still, they have not been able to take the...
Prabhupāda: This, falsely to become proud: "We... We have done." What I am at the present? That is to be taken, not that... Now in Bengal... "Fourteen generations before my father took ghee, and I have got a smell." (laughs) What is that? Whether you are eating ghee or not, that is talk, not that "Fourteen generations before my father and forefathers ate ghee, and I have got the smell here." (laughs)
Dr. Patel: No, we talk of Vedic culture, sir.
Prabhupāda: Vedic culture is all right now. There is no question of "we" or "you."
Dr. Patel: But why it is not with them?
Prabhupāda: Why it is not with you? First of all say why you are challenging them? (laughter) First of all challenge yourself.
Dr. Patel: (laughing) That's right. But they have not, their forefathers have got. We have at least with our forefathers.
Prabhupāda: No, no, their forefathers are the Aryans, the same forefathers, your forefathers.
Dr. Patel: They're Aryans, but they did not take the Vedic culture with them.
Prabhupāda: They did not take. You are not taking. That's the same thing.
Dr. Patel: Presently the whole world is...
Prabhupāda: That's all. That is our concern, how the world is misdirected. That we are challenging, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not that "East," "West," "you," "I." Everyone is a victim. Bhāgavata says, prāyena kalau asmin yuga-jana: "In this age everyone is condemned." It doesn't say that "These Eastern, Western..." Everyone is condemned. Kalau asmin yuga-jana. That is impartial.