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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">Our test is whether you're advancing in God consciousness. That is our test. You follow Christianity or Muhammadanism, anything you follow, we don't mind. Whether you are developing your God consciousness, love for God, that is our test. But if your process has failed, then you can try this. And you'll see, in our process within so short time, how they are becoming God conscious. | | <div class="heading">Our test is whether you're advancing in God consciousness. That is our test. You follow Christianity or Muhammadanism, anything you follow, we don't mind. Whether you are developing your God consciousness, love for God, that is our test. But if your process has failed, then you can try this. And you'll see, in our process within so short time, how they are becoming God conscious. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 4, 1972, New York|Room Conversation -- July 4, 1972, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Jayādvaita: I was reading in their book, the Bible...</p> | | |
| <p>Prabhupāda: And they're playing, gambling.</p>
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| <p>Devotee: Yes. In the church.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- July 4, 1972, New York|Room Conversation -- July 4, 1972, New York]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Devotees: Bingo.</p>
| | Jayādvaita: I was reading in their book, the Bible . . . |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Bingo.</p>
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| <p>Jayādvaita: I was reading, they prescribe..., the book prescribes all our principles.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: And they're playing gambling. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: And five hundred, five hundred priests are in hospital for, for their drinking habit. Five hundred or five thousand? You know that? Yes. Brahmānanda gave me a cutting from newspaper, that five hundred or five thousand priests are in the hospital to cure of their drinking habit.</p>
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| <p>Kīrtanānanda: Probably five thousand?</p>
| | Devotee: Yes. In the church. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
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| <p>Kīrtanānanda: Probably five thousand. (indistinct) five hundred.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Huh? |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Huh? They're drinking, they're eating meat, they're gambling and they are having illicit sex, and they are preaching. And we say, "First of all stop these things, then claim yourself to be religious, or God conscious." You cannot indulge in all these things. (aside:) Oh, you have kept my one cloth outside?</p>
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| <p>Devotee: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It's outside.</p>
| | Devotees: Bingo. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Because I may require in the.... So, we don't want to enter into arguments, but we must know, but if somebody comes to argument, we have to say. What can be done? We say that "You follow Christianity in perfect order, you'll be benefited." That we say. Our test is whether you're advancing in God consciousness. That is our test. You follow Christianity or Muhammadanism, anything you follow, we don't mind. Whether you are developing your God consciousness, love for God, that is our test. But if your process has failed, then you can try this. And you'll see, in our process within so short time, how they are becoming God conscious. You have to admit. And they admit also.</p>
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| <p>Viṣṇujana: They're not getting any young priests.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: Bingo. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
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| <p>Viṣṇujana: They're not getting young priests. Only this movement is getting young priests.</p>
| | Jayādvaita: I was reading, they prescribe . . . the book prescribes all our principles. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Very young. Just from the womb of the mother. (laughter) Yes?</p>
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| | Prabhupāda: And five hundred . . . five hundred priests are in hospital for, for their drinking habit. Five hundred or five thousand? You know that? Yes. Brahmānanda gave me a cutting from newspaper, that five hundred or five thousand priests are in the hospital to cure of their drinking habit. |
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| | Kīrtanānanda: Probably five thousand. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Huh? |
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| | Kīrtanānanda: Probably five thousand . . . (indistinct) . . . five hundred. (laughter) |
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| | Prabhupāda: Huh? They're drinking, they're eating meat, they're gambling and they are having illicit sex, and they are preaching. And we say: "First of all stop these things, then claim yourself to be religious, or God conscious." You cannot indulge in all these things. |
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| | (aside) Oh, you have kept my one cloth outside? |
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| | Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. It's outside. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Because I may require in the . . . so, we don't want to enter into arguments, but we must know. But if somebody comes to argument, we have to say. What can be done? |
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| | We say that, "You follow Christianity in perfect order, you'll be benefited." That we say. Our test is whether you're advancing in God consciousness. That is our test. You follow Christianity or Muhammadanism, anything you follow, we don't mind. Whether you are developing your God consciousness, love for God, that is our test. |
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| | But if your process has failed, then you can try this. And you'll see, in our process, within so short time how they are becoming God conscious. You have to admit. And they admit also. |
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| | Viṣṇujana: They're not getting any young priests. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Huh? |
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| | Viṣṇujana: They're not getting young priests. Only this movement is getting young priests. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. (chuckles) Very young. Just from the womb of the mother. (laughter) Yes? |
