Sudama: That this Krsna consciousness, actually it does work, it does make us purified.
Prabhupada: "No. It works with you. It doesn't work with me," he will say. You have to prove that they are animals. How you will prove it?
Tamala Krsna: By showing the activities of the animals and their activities to be the same.
Prabhupada: Yes. They have to judge that "What is the difference between animal's activities and our so-called civilized man's activities?"
Sudama: When you compare them to the animals, then they become insulted.
Prabhupada: But he is animal. That is, if you call a thief a thief, he will feel insulted. But does it mean that I shall say that "You are very honest"? A thief shall be called thief. That is natural. If you call a Negro, "You black," he will be angry. But he is black. So... So that is another thing. When the activities are similar to the animal activities, then he is animal. Why a reasonable man will not accept that? Hmm? In that case also, he is animal. Because they say, "Man is rational animal." So if you are devoid of rationality, then again you are animal. So how he will avoid, that he is not animal?
Satsvarupa: Many people today are willing to accept that. They say, "Yes, we're animals. We should enjoy our animal nature."