Bahulāśva: In California they have passed a law that homosexuality is legal. So the psychologists say that they see the dogs and the hogs and monkeys having homosex relationships, so on that grounds, they say, it should be legal.
Prabhupāda: They have got homosex? Dogs, hogs, I don't think.
Bahulāśva: Yeah, dogs, they say. We were preaching in this one convention that the dogs are also fighting. So therefore fighting and murder should be legal too because the dogs do that also.
Brahmānanda: Their argument was because the dogs have homosex, therefore the man should have...?
Bahulāśva: Should have homosex.
Dharmādhyakṣa: Yes, if an animal does it, then a human being should have the same right to do it also.
Jayatīrtha: Then they can pass stool in the street also?
Prabhupāda: Then what is the difference between man and animal? They do not find any difference?
Bahulāśva: No.
Prabhupāda: Then why they find difference in having soul?
Brahmānanda: Well, that is the Christian. But these modern psychologists, they don't even think that the human being has soul. That he's the same as the animal.
Bahulāśva: Actually psyche means soul.
Prabhupāda: Psyche means mental activities, thinking, feeling, and willing.