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<div class="heading">Liberty means whatever you like, you can do. That is liberty. But at the present moment, you cannot do that. Just like you want to go to the moon planet, you cannot do that. But when you are spiritually liberated, you can go anywhere you like. Still, in this material world there is a planet which is called Siddhaloka. The inhabitants of that planet, they go from any planet to any planet. But still, they can not go to the spiritual world. But Nārada Muni, he can travel anywhere. He travels over all the spiritual world and material world. There is no restriction.
<div class="heading">Liberty means whatever you like, you can do. That is liberty. But at the present moment, you cannot do that. Just like you want to go to the moon planet, you cannot do that. But when you are spiritually liberated, you can go anywhere you like. Still, in this material world there is a planet which is called Siddhaloka. The inhabitants of that planet, they go from any planet to any planet. But still, they can not go to the spiritual world. But Narada Muni, he can travel anywhere. He travels over all the spiritual world and material world. There is no restriction.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Meeting with Italian Printer -- August 5, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Meeting with Italian Printer -- August 5, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bhagavān: He told me that Prabhupāda was remarking how nice the Dutch Bhagavad-gītā was. He says that the next books he will print will be even nicer.</p>
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<p>Translator: He's very happy to meet you, he says. He wasn't expecting it. He had many questions to ask you, a few questions, but he saw that you were tired today, so...</p>
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Meeting with Italian Printer -- August 5, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)|Meeting with Italian Printer -- August 5, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm)]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Translator: What is our definition of liberty, freedom, spiritual?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no, I'm not tired</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Liberty means whatever you like, you can do. That is liberty. But at the present moment, you cannot do that. Just like you want to go to the moon planet, you cannot do that. But when you are spiritually liberated, you can go anywhere you like. Still, in this material world there is a planet which is called Siddhaloka. The inhabitants of that planet, they go from any planet to any planet. But still, they can not go to the spiritual world. But Narada Muni, he can travel anywhere. He travels over all the spiritual world and material world. There is no restriction.</p>
<p>Translator: He says he has very much appreciation for all that we're doing here, for all of our activities, but he's wondering what is the actual freedom we're getting from all these activities, what is the actual goal, and what is the freedom we derive from doing these activities?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: So, explain what is the goal.</p>
<p>Translator: What is our definition of liberty, freedom, spiritual?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Liberty means whatever you like, you can do. That is liberty. But at the present moment, you cannot do that. Just like you want to go to the moon planet, you cannot do that. But when you are spiritually liberated, you can go anywhere you like. Still, in this material world there is a planet which is called Siddhaloka. The inhabitants of that planet, they go from any planet to any planet. But still, they can not go to the spiritual world. But Nārada Muni, he can travel anywhere. He travels over all the spiritual world and material world. There is no restriction.</p>
<p>Translator: He says this freedom to go anywhere and everywhere...</p>
<p>Translator: He says this freedom to go anywhere and everywhere...</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: This is one of the items, there are so many others.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: This is one of the items, there are so many others.</p>
<p>Translator: So he's pointing out that when one acts in complete freedom, he follows a path, a definite path to attain a certain truth.</p>
<p>Translator: So he's pointing out that when one acts in complete freedom, he follows a path, a definite path to attain a certain truth.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: You get a spiritual body, that means freedom, no condition.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: You get a spiritual body, that means freedom, no condition.</p>
<p>Translator: But he's asking where we're finding that truth. Can we find it only in the scriptures, in following all the regulative principles we're following day after day, or can we find also that truth by following our own path, by keeping our own freedom to do whatever we like?</p>
<p>Translator: But he's asking where we're finding that truth. Can we find it only in the scriptures, in following all the regulative principles we're following day after day, or can we find also that truth by following our own path, by keeping our own freedom to do whatever we like?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: No, you have no freedom. You have to accept some way for freedom.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: No, you have no freedom. You have to accept some way for freedom.</p>
<p>Translator: He says that this very truth is contained in the scriptures. So right from the beginning, to start with, he has to accept the scriptures.</p>
<p>Translator: He says that this very truth is contained in the scriptures. So right from the beginning, to start with, he has to accept the scriptures.</p>
<p>Bhagavan: He is printing the scriptures, so he must accept them.</p>
<p>Yogesvara: He finds it difficult to accept that the truth is something that you can put down in black and white. He seems to feel that it's more something you can realize through meditation.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: How you'll realize? Unless you learn ABCD, how you can realize truth?</p>
<p>Translator: He's saying that we believe in the spiritual truth, but does that mean that our material truth does not exist?</p>
<p>Prabhupada: It is conditional. Just like your body exists for a certain days only. But it is not eternal. But you, soul, you are eternal.</p>
<p>Translator: For the truth, since each one finds the truth in himself, does that mean that the truth is different for each person? Each person has his truth.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Yes, he's truth, he's soul, but he thinks as untruth, he thinks he's body.</p>
<p>Translator: He says that the truth is one, but as individuals we all realize that truth at different levels.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: That is rascaldom. Truth is one.</p>
<p>Translator: He says in terms of knowledge, one has a higher knowledge of that truth and one has a lower.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: That is different thing, but truth is one. Just like top floor is one. And one has gone few steps, another hundred steps, one has got ten steps, that is depending. But top is one.</p>
<p>Bhugarbha: Can he find the truth on his level, because he hasn't arrived at your level.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: How he can? If the top floor is hundred steps, how you can get it at ten steps?</p>
<p>Bhagavan: The point is that he has to at least be aiming in the right direction.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: Yes, that right direction you can take everybody's going, but one who has gone ten steps and one who has gone thousand steps, they are not equal. (man says "d'accord, d'accord.") What is "d'acca?"</p>
<p>Translator: He's agreeing.</p>
<p>Prabhupada: So, truth is one. Everyone is trying to go to the truth. Somebody has gone ten steps, somebody has hundred steps, but to cover all the steps, say one thousand steps. So unless you have passed one thousand steps, you cannot reach to the truth.</p>
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"What is our definition of liberty, freedom, spiritual"

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1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

Liberty means whatever you like, you can do. That is liberty. But at the present moment, you cannot do that. Just like you want to go to the moon planet, you cannot do that. But when you are spiritually liberated, you can go anywhere you like. Still, in this material world there is a planet which is called Siddhaloka. The inhabitants of that planet, they go from any planet to any planet. But still, they can not go to the spiritual world. But Narada Muni, he can travel anywhere. He travels over all the spiritual world and material world. There is no restriction.

Meeting with Italian Printer -- August 5, 1976, New Mayapur (French farm):

Translator: What is our definition of liberty, freedom, spiritual?

Prabhupada: Liberty means whatever you like, you can do. That is liberty. But at the present moment, you cannot do that. Just like you want to go to the moon planet, you cannot do that. But when you are spiritually liberated, you can go anywhere you like. Still, in this material world there is a planet which is called Siddhaloka. The inhabitants of that planet, they go from any planet to any planet. But still, they can not go to the spiritual world. But Narada Muni, he can travel anywhere. He travels over all the spiritual world and material world. There is no restriction.

Translator: He says this freedom to go anywhere and everywhere...

Prabhupada: This is one of the items, there are so many others.

Translator: So he's pointing out that when one acts in complete freedom, he follows a path, a definite path to attain a certain truth.

Prabhupada: You get a spiritual body, that means freedom, no condition.

Translator: But he's asking where we're finding that truth. Can we find it only in the scriptures, in following all the regulative principles we're following day after day, or can we find also that truth by following our own path, by keeping our own freedom to do whatever we like?

Prabhupada: No, you have no freedom. You have to accept some way for freedom.

Translator: He says that this very truth is contained in the scriptures. So right from the beginning, to start with, he has to accept the scriptures.

Bhagavan: He is printing the scriptures, so he must accept them.

Yogesvara: He finds it difficult to accept that the truth is something that you can put down in black and white. He seems to feel that it's more something you can realize through meditation.

Prabhupada: How you'll realize? Unless you learn ABCD, how you can realize truth?

Translator: He's saying that we believe in the spiritual truth, but does that mean that our material truth does not exist?

Prabhupada: It is conditional. Just like your body exists for a certain days only. But it is not eternal. But you, soul, you are eternal.

Translator: For the truth, since each one finds the truth in himself, does that mean that the truth is different for each person? Each person has his truth.

Prabhupada: Yes, he's truth, he's soul, but he thinks as untruth, he thinks he's body.

Translator: He says that the truth is one, but as individuals we all realize that truth at different levels.

Prabhupada: That is rascaldom. Truth is one.

Translator: He says in terms of knowledge, one has a higher knowledge of that truth and one has a lower.

Prabhupada: That is different thing, but truth is one. Just like top floor is one. And one has gone few steps, another hundred steps, one has got ten steps, that is depending. But top is one.

Bhugarbha: Can he find the truth on his level, because he hasn't arrived at your level.

Prabhupada: How he can? If the top floor is hundred steps, how you can get it at ten steps?

Bhagavan: The point is that he has to at least be aiming in the right direction.

Prabhupada: Yes, that right direction you can take everybody's going, but one who has gone ten steps and one who has gone thousand steps, they are not equal. (man says "d'accord, d'accord.") What is "d'acca?"

Translator: He's agreeing.

Prabhupada: So, truth is one. Everyone is trying to go to the truth. Somebody has gone ten steps, somebody has hundred steps, but to cover all the steps, say one thousand steps. So unless you have passed one thousand steps, you cannot reach to the truth.