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<div class="heading">No, that chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa does not mean whimsical. Offenseless, he must be properly initiated.
<div class="heading">No, that chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa does not mean whimsical. Offenseless, he must be properly initiated.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With Artists and About BTG -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation With Artists and About BTG -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text">Rāmeśvara: What about the idea that "You do not have to move into a temple, give up your family and everything, but you can actually chant Hare Kṛṣṇa in your own home," that idea that "It is available to you..."
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Prabhupāda: No, that chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa does not mean whimsical.
<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation With Artists and About BTG -- February 25, 1977, Mayapura|Room Conversation With Artists and About BTG -- February 25, 1977, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Rāmeśvara: What about the idea that "You do not have to move into a temple, give up your family and everything, but you can actually chant Hare Kṛṣṇa in your own home," that idea that "It is available to you..."</p>
Rāmeśvara: No.
<p>Prabhupāda: No, that chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa does not mean whimsical.</p>
Prabhupāda: Offenseless, he must be properly initiated. It does not mean that he should not be initiated and chant. That is not the idea. You can... Must be initiated, either you are a gṛhastha or sannyāsī or brahmacārī. Not that without being initiated you'll whimsically chant and the effect will be the same. No. You must be initiated. Ādau gurvāśrayam. You must accept a guru.
<p>Rāmeśvara: No.</p>
Rāmeśvara: If you want to sell some product, you may make so many claims, and then the public will buy. So sometimes we quote these psychologists who have done studies that "If you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, there are some good effects."
<p>Prabhupāda: Offenseless, he must be properly initiated. It does not mean that he should not be initiated and chant. That is not the idea. You can... Must be initiated, either you are a gṛhastha or sannyāsī or brahmacārī. Not that without being initiated you'll whimsically chant and the effect will be the same. No. You must be initiated. Ādau gurvāśrayam. You must accept a guru.</p>
Prabhupāda: Good there is undoubtedly. If you eat something, there will be some effect of eating. But if it is properly eaten, properly made, it will be, have better effect. That is the idea.
<p>Rāmeśvara: If you want to sell some product, you may make so many claims, and then the public will buy. So sometimes we quote these psychologists who have done studies that "If you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, there are some good effects."</p>
Rāmeśvara: We were thinking that something is better than nothing.
<p>Prabhupāda: Good there is undoubtedly. If you eat something, there will be some effect of eating. But if it is properly eaten, properly made, it will be, have better effect. That is the idea.</p>
Prabhupāda: No.
<p>Rāmeśvara: We were thinking that something is better than nothing.</p>
Hari-śauri: If you advertise the mahā-mantra gives some material benefit, isn't that an offense?
<p>Prabhupāda: No.</p>
Prabhupāda: Then that is aparādha.
<p>Hari-śauri: If you advertise the mahā-mantra gives some material benefit, isn't that an offense?</p>
Hari-śauri: Yes.
<p>Prabhupāda: Then that is aparādha.</p>
Prabhupāda: That is aparādha.
<p>Hari-śauri: Yes.</p>
Hari-śauri: One of the ten offenses.
<p>Prabhupāda: That is aparādha.</p>
Rāmeśvara: 'Cause sometimes when we interview these people who are chanting, they speak from their own realization, and it is not exactly the version of Śukadeva Gosvāmī, it is not..., but it is their own realization, whatever little bit they have realized.
<p>Hari-śauri: One of the ten offenses.</p>
Prabhupāda: No, no. They may chant, but they must understand that the chanting process, that will be more effective. That they must know. Chanting is open. Anyone can chant, but they must know it, that "If I chant in the proper process, then it will be effective."
<p>Rāmeśvara: 'Cause sometimes when we interview these people who are chanting, they speak from their own realization, and it is not exactly the version of Śukadeva Gosvāmī, it is not..., but it is their own realization, whatever little bit they have realized.</p>
Rāmeśvara: It must be clear to them that the goal is love of God, not something material.
<p>Prabhupāda: No, no. They may chant, but they must understand that the chanting process, that will be more effective. That they must know. Chanting is open. Anyone can chant, but they must know it, that "If I chant in the proper process, then it will be effective."</p>
Prabhupāda: Yes. Premā pum-artho mahān. That is wanted. There is one word by Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, nāmākṣara bahir haya nāma nāhi haya: "The... Simply the alphabets are coming, but that is not nāma." Nāmākṣara, Hare Kṛṣṇa, the alphabets, are coming out, but it is not the holy name.
<p>Rāmeśvara: It must be clear to them that the goal is love of God, not something material.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Premā pum-artho mahān. That is wanted. There is one word by Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, nāmākṣara bahir haya nāma nāhi haya: "The... Simply the alphabets are coming, but that is not nāma." Nāmākṣara, Hare Kṛṣṇa, the alphabets, are coming out, but it is not the holy name.</p>
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"It is available to you" |"What about the idea that" |"You do not have to move into a temple" |"give up your family and everything" |"but you can actually chant Hare Krsna in your own home" |"that idea that"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

No, that chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa does not mean whimsical. Offenseless, he must be properly initiated.

Room Conversation With Artists and About BTG -- February 25, 1977, Mayapur:

Rāmeśvara: What about the idea that "You do not have to move into a temple, give up your family and everything, but you can actually chant Hare Kṛṣṇa in your own home," that idea that "It is available to you..."

Prabhupāda: No, that chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa does not mean whimsical.

Rāmeśvara: No.

Prabhupāda: Offenseless, he must be properly initiated. It does not mean that he should not be initiated and chant. That is not the idea. You can... Must be initiated, either you are a gṛhastha or sannyāsī or brahmacārī. Not that without being initiated you'll whimsically chant and the effect will be the same. No. You must be initiated. Ādau gurvāśrayam. You must accept a guru.

Rāmeśvara: If you want to sell some product, you may make so many claims, and then the public will buy. So sometimes we quote these psychologists who have done studies that "If you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, there are some good effects."

Prabhupāda: Good there is undoubtedly. If you eat something, there will be some effect of eating. But if it is properly eaten, properly made, it will be, have better effect. That is the idea.

Rāmeśvara: We were thinking that something is better than nothing.

Prabhupāda: No.

Hari-śauri: If you advertise the mahā-mantra gives some material benefit, isn't that an offense?

Prabhupāda: Then that is aparādha.

Hari-śauri: Yes.

Prabhupāda: That is aparādha.

Hari-śauri: One of the ten offenses.

Rāmeśvara: 'Cause sometimes when we interview these people who are chanting, they speak from their own realization, and it is not exactly the version of Śukadeva Gosvāmī, it is not..., but it is their own realization, whatever little bit they have realized.

Prabhupāda: No, no. They may chant, but they must understand that the chanting process, that will be more effective. That they must know. Chanting is open. Anyone can chant, but they must know it, that "If I chant in the proper process, then it will be effective."

Rāmeśvara: It must be clear to them that the goal is love of God, not something material.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Premā pum-artho mahān. That is wanted. There is one word by Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, nāmākṣara bahir haya nāma nāhi haya: "The... Simply the alphabets are coming, but that is not nāma." Nāmākṣara, Hare Kṛṣṇa, the alphabets, are coming out, but it is not the holy name.

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