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| Prabhupāda: No, no. He is, after all, a student here. That... This is Kṛṣṇa, that you go... Just like you are caused by your father. Your father is caused by your grandfather, his father, his father, his father, his father. In this way, if you go to Kṛṣṇa, then He has no father, and that is Kṛṣṇa. So long you will find another father, then he is not supreme. And when there is no more father, then He is supreme. | | Prabhupāda: Ah. ''Niskiñcananaṁ mahiyasam''. It has to be understood from the same thing, ''tattva-darśinam''. Otherwise it is not possible. You cannot speculate. If you say, as Gandhi said, "My Kṛṣṇa is of my imagination," that kind of knowledge has no value. What you are, your imagination? ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā''. ''Parataḥ svato vā''. ''Vidya-bhāgavatavadhiḥ''. If one reads ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', then he gets the ultimate knowledge of everything. That is the ultimate end, limit of knowledge. |
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| Dr. Patel: It is very difficult for us to understand the divya-bhāva of Kṛṣṇa. That is why people are asking these questions, because divya-bhāva is very difficult to be understood.
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| Prabhupāda: Therefore it is said,
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| Those who are simply chewing the chewed, they cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. Naisaṁ matis tavad urukramāṅghrīm ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.32|SB 7.5.32]]).
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| Yaśomatīnandana: Niskiñcananam...
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| Prabhupāda: Ah. Niskiñcananaṁ mahiyasam. It has to be understood from the same thing, tattva-darśinam. Otherwise it is not possible. You cannot speculate. If you say, as Gandhi said, "My Kṛṣṇa is of my imagination," that kind of knowledge has no value. What you are, your imagination? Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā. Parataḥ svato vā. Vidya-bhāgavatavadhiḥ. If one reads Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, then he gets the ultimate knowledge of everything. That is the ultimate end, limit of knowledge.
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| Prabhupāda: Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ... ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]) Nobody can understand Kṛṣṇa, and they are thinking, "In my imagination, Kṛṣṇa is like this." What is the value of this imagination? | | Prabhupāda: ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ'' . . . ([[vanisource:SB 7.5.30|SB 7.5.30]]) Nobody can understand Kṛṣṇa, and they are thinking, "In my imagination, Kṛṣṇa is like this." What is the value of this imagination? |
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| Dr. Patel: That is why I said, sir, that divya-bhāva is very difficult to tell, because it is felt by the divya-bhāva itself. It cannot be felt by the... | | Dr. Patel: That is why I said, sir, that ''divya-bhāva'' is very difficult to tell, because it is felt by the divya-bhāva itself. It cannot be felt by the . . . |
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| Prabhupāda: Yes, and therefore Kṛṣṇa said, manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye ([[Vanisource:BG 7.3|BG 7.3]]). Unless one is siddha, there is no question of understanding Kṛṣṇa. Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām. Even if he is siddha he cannot understand. Out of many of them, one may understand. And they are trying to understand Kṛṣṇa by imagination. | | Prabhupāda: Yes, and therefore Kṛṣṇa said, ''manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye'' ([[vanisource:BG 7.3 (1972)|BG 7.3]]). Unless one is ''siddha'', there is no question of understanding Kṛṣṇa. ''Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye yatatām api siddhānām''. Even if he is siddha he cannot understand. Out of many of them, one may understand. And they are trying to understand Kṛṣṇa by imagination. Just see the folly. |
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