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<div class="heading">The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful. And if they utilize their intelligence how to reduce population and kill child within the womb and "There is no soul in the womb. When they come out then the soul becomes"—what is this nonsense? Unless there is soul, how it becomes manifest?
<div class="heading">Let them study Bhāgavatam, Bhagavad-gītā. And they will accept it. They are not fools. Simply we have to introduce it. The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban|Garden Discussion on Bhagavad-gita Sixteenth Chapter -- June 26, 1976, New Vrindaban]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Prabhupāda: Society has lost this saṁskāra process; therefore they remain in the animal platform. Janman jāyate śūdra saṁskārad bhaved dvijaḥ. When a person is born even in human society, he remains a śūdra. Śūdra means almost like animal. Now he has to be reformed. That is called saṁskāra. Then twice-born. The first-class twice-born is brāhmaṇa. Second-class twice-born is kṣatriya. And third-class twice-born is the vaiśya. And remaining, who cannot be reformed, they remain śūdra. But there is cooperation between brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra, and the society makes progress simultaneously for everyone. That is human society. At the present moment mostly all of them remain śūdras or less..., caṇḍālas. So how there can be any peace? It is not possible. There is no brāhmaṇa, no kṣatriya, maybe a few vaiśyas only. They are also half-reformed. And European culture, that is caṇḍāla culture, yavana culture. There is no reformation, no brāhmaṇa, no kṣatriya, no vaiśyas, simply śūdras and caṇḍālas mostly caṇḍālas. So Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is means for thoroughly overhauling the whole human society. (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Thank you.</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...is in ignorance. Combination of matter and soul, moving animals. Some of them are standing as trees and plant, and some of them are moving. Where is the science to study? What is your value of knowledge? Hm? If they do not know the fundamental things, then what is the value of their knowledge? Simply observation, superficial, externally. There is good scope. They are receiving these books. We should take chance of preaching this Bhāgavatam, and the classes should be held especially.... No, the religious classes are already there. Let them study Bhāgavatam, Bhagavad-gītā. And they will accept it. They are not fools. Simply we have to introduce it. The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful. And if they utilize their intelligence how to reduce population and kill child within the womb and "There is no soul in the womb. When they come out then the soul becomes"—what is this nonsense? Unless there is soul, how it becomes manifest?</p>
<p>Prabhupāda: Therefore Prahlāda Mahārāja recommends from the beginning of student life, kaumāra ācaret prajño dharmān bhāgavatān iha ([[Vanisource:SB 7.6.1|SB 7.6.1]]), they should be trained up in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That Prahlāda Mahārāja recommends. Now from the very beginning of student life, because there is no education, he is trained up as demon. What can be done? So many things have to be reformed by pushing on Kṛṣṇa consciousness. These are Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, whatever is described in the Bhagavad-gītā that is within the jurisdiction of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So we have to do all this.</p>
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur|Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
Prabhupāda: If he does not read ''Bhāgavatam'', then he remains a rascal.
Hari-śauri: Anything apart from the ''Vedas'' is not really knowledge.
Prabhupāda: No. May be some fragmental knowledge, but if one wants full knowledge in life, then he must read ''Bhāgavatam''. ''Bhagavad-gītā'' is the preliminary ABCD, and then let him read ''Bhāgavatam''. (break) . . . venture, newspaper. (break) They have been taught like that. ''Andhā yathāndhaiḥ'' ([[Vanisource:SB 7.5.31|SB 7.5.31]]). They are passing as great leader for giving men wrong direction and spoil the life. He cannot save himself, and he can spoil himself very nicely.
Hari-śauri: People's minds are so flickering. There's so much disturbance.
Prabhupāda: The mind is the first creation for material enjoyment. From the mind, senses are created: five senses for knowledge-gathering and five senses for working, and five airs within the body. In this way the mind and fifteen. This is called ''ṣoḍāśa upacāra'', sixteen. And then the ingredients, ''pañca-mahā-bhūta''. Then intelligence, ''ahaṅkāra'', false ego. These twenty-four, combination. And ''ātmā, jīva'', and then Kṛṣṇa—twenty-six. The twenty-six combination is this body, mind, self, soul, Supersoul, everything.
(pause)
Prabhupāda: So, I am ready.
Hari-śauri: I think it's just a little early yet, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: Just a little early. It's still dark. I think ten minutes should be all right. Has this been used?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: All right. I'll take it and wash it. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . is in ignorance. Combination of matter and soul, moving animals. Some of them are standing as trees and plant, and some of them are moving. Where is the science to study? What is your value of knowledge? Hmm? If they do not know the fundamental things, then what is the value of their knowledge? Simply observation, superficial, externally. There is good scope. They are receiving these books. We should take chance of preaching this ''Bhāgavatam'', and the classes should be held especially . . . no, the religious classes are already there. Let them study ''Bhāgavatam'', ''Bhagavad-gītā''. And they will accept it. They are not fools. Simply we have to introduce it. The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful. And if they utilize their intelligence how to reduce population and kill child within the womb and "There is no soul in the womb. When they come out then the soul becomes . . ." What is this nonsense? Unless there is soul, how it becomes manifest?
Hari-śauri: It's obvious. If the body is growing within the womb, there must be life there.
Prabhupāda: The same process is going on from the very beginning. A body is formed, and it develops. The child is born . . . the same process is going on. How do you say there is no soul? If there is no soul, how it has developed within the womb? Such rascals, they are passing on as big scientists. What is the reason they don't believe that there is no soul?
Harikeśa: They have really no argument.
Prabhupāda: Just see. All dogmatic. All dogmatic foolishness they are propagating, and it is going on in the name of ''vijñāna'', science.
Hari-śauri: If they admitted the existence . . .
Prabhupāda: ''Vijñāna'' should be enunciated, ''vigata-jñāna. Vigata'' . . . you understand ''vigata''? ''Vigata'' means lost. So ''vijñāna'', you can make two meanings. ''Viśiṣṭa-jñāna. Viśiṣṭa, vi'' means . . . ''viśiṣṭa'' means full, explained knowledge. You can make this meaning. And another meaning you can do. ''Vi'' means ''vigata'', "lost." So ''vigata-jñāna''. Their ''vijñāna'' means ''vigata-jñāna,'' lost of all knowledge. So that is the word given in ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''māyayāprahṛta-jñānaḥ''. This is ''vijñāna''. You can explain in this way also. ''Māyayāpa'' . . . ''māyā'' has taken away their knowledge, and that is going on as ''vijñāna'', science. ''Māyā'' has made them rascal, and they are presenting themselves as the man of advanced knowledge. A rascal is representing himself as advanced in knowledge. That is the defect of Kali-yuga.
Hari-śauri: Advanced demoniac knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Advanced demon. Actually they are advanced demons, ''asura, asurī-bhāvam āśritaḥ'', being infected with the contamination of atheism, godlessness.

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1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

Let them study Bhāgavatam, Bhagavad-gītā. And they will accept it. They are not fools. Simply we have to introduce it. The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful.


Room Conversation -- January 16, 1976, Mayapur:

Prabhupāda: If he does not read Bhāgavatam, then he remains a rascal.

Hari-śauri: Anything apart from the Vedas is not really knowledge.

Prabhupāda: No. May be some fragmental knowledge, but if one wants full knowledge in life, then he must read Bhāgavatam. Bhagavad-gītā is the preliminary ABCD, and then let him read Bhāgavatam. (break) . . . venture, newspaper. (break) They have been taught like that. Andhā yathāndhaiḥ (SB 7.5.31). They are passing as great leader for giving men wrong direction and spoil the life. He cannot save himself, and he can spoil himself very nicely.

Hari-śauri: People's minds are so flickering. There's so much disturbance.

Prabhupāda: The mind is the first creation for material enjoyment. From the mind, senses are created: five senses for knowledge-gathering and five senses for working, and five airs within the body. In this way the mind and fifteen. This is called ṣoḍāśa upacāra, sixteen. And then the ingredients, pañca-mahā-bhūta. Then intelligence, ahaṅkāra, false ego. These twenty-four, combination. And ātmā, jīva, and then Kṛṣṇa—twenty-six. The twenty-six combination is this body, mind, self, soul, Supersoul, everything.

(pause)

Prabhupāda: So, I am ready.

Hari-śauri: I think it's just a little early yet, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Hari-śauri: Just a little early. It's still dark. I think ten minutes should be all right. Has this been used?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Hari-śauri: All right. I'll take it and wash it. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . is in ignorance. Combination of matter and soul, moving animals. Some of them are standing as trees and plant, and some of them are moving. Where is the science to study? What is your value of knowledge? Hmm? If they do not know the fundamental things, then what is the value of their knowledge? Simply observation, superficial, externally. There is good scope. They are receiving these books. We should take chance of preaching this Bhāgavatam, and the classes should be held especially . . . no, the religious classes are already there. Let them study Bhāgavatam, Bhagavad-gītā. And they will accept it. They are not fools. Simply we have to introduce it. The Western people, they are not fools, but misguided. So you take the charge of guiding them; then Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will be successful. They will appreciate, they will take it up and reform, and their life will be successful. And if they utilize their intelligence how to reduce population and kill child within the womb and "There is no soul in the womb. When they come out then the soul becomes . . ." What is this nonsense? Unless there is soul, how it becomes manifest?

Hari-śauri: It's obvious. If the body is growing within the womb, there must be life there.

Prabhupāda: The same process is going on from the very beginning. A body is formed, and it develops. The child is born . . . the same process is going on. How do you say there is no soul? If there is no soul, how it has developed within the womb? Such rascals, they are passing on as big scientists. What is the reason they don't believe that there is no soul?

Harikeśa: They have really no argument.

Prabhupāda: Just see. All dogmatic. All dogmatic foolishness they are propagating, and it is going on in the name of vijñāna, science.

Hari-śauri: If they admitted the existence . . .

Prabhupāda: Vijñāna should be enunciated, vigata-jñāna. Vigata . . . you understand vigata? Vigata means lost. So vijñāna, you can make two meanings. Viśiṣṭa-jñāna. Viśiṣṭa, vi means . . . viśiṣṭa means full, explained knowledge. You can make this meaning. And another meaning you can do. Vi means vigata, "lost." So vigata-jñāna. Their vijñāna means vigata-jñāna, lost of all knowledge. So that is the word given in Bhagavad-gītā, māyayāprahṛta-jñānaḥ. This is vijñāna. You can explain in this way also. Māyayāpa . . . māyā has taken away their knowledge, and that is going on as vijñāna, science. Māyā has made them rascal, and they are presenting themselves as the man of advanced knowledge. A rascal is representing himself as advanced in knowledge. That is the defect of Kali-yuga.

Hari-śauri: Advanced demoniac knowledge.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Advanced demon. Actually they are advanced demons, asura, asurī-bhāvam āśritaḥ, being infected with the contamination of atheism, godlessness.

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