Śyāmasundara: If the science is available to everyone without impediment, then there must be the proper teacher, isn't it? There must be a teacher of the science . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Śyāmasundara: . . . where people learn. That has been a difficulty here. There's been no real teachers until . . .
Prabhupāda: No, everyone gives his own opinion. Everyone will say . . . he'll not dare to say that he's speaking right, scientifically. He'll say: "It is my opinion." To avoid any difficulty, he'll say: "In my opinion it is this." I think he's speaking of that, (that) there are so many people, and they have got so many opinions.
Śyāmasundara: How do we know, then, what is the real fact?
Prabhupāda: We have to understand it from a real man who knows it. Upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ.
(aside) Find out that. Tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā.
So we have to approach the real person who has seen. Then you'll get the right goal of life.
Pradyumna:
- tad viddhi praṇipātena
- paripraśnena sevayā
- upadekṣyanti te jñānaṁ
- jñāninas tattva-darśinaḥ
- (BG 4.34)
"Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth."
Prabhupāda: So we have to approach a person who has seen the truth. It is not difficult. Just like if you are suffering from some disease, you have to go to a doctor who knows how to treat. It is same thing, like that.
Śyāmasundara: How do we know he's a good doctor or not? By his credential, or . . .?
Prabhupāda: No.